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These were recorded with a Maratz professional cassette deck in an empty house.
1. John Debney (My name) or
Come Get me
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2. Russell Henry Wright
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I must look him up in the local geneology office...
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3. Sabel Rubinov ??
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4. Where's Our Coffee (I was outside with a cup of coffee at the time....)
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I liked the where's our coffee one, great link to the events of the evening. Difficult to discern some though, with the filtering.
If the genealogy checks out then it would certainly further the investigation i'm sure
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Thanks for listening Slider! There is very little filtering on these. SOund Soap pro on very low noise tune threshold.
Warmest,
John D
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Hi John, I can hear the first and fourth ones fairly clearly. I agree about the first--sometimes it sounds like your name and sometimes "Come get me." but I think I hear your name more often! Vicki
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Hey Vicki great to see you here!
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Here are a couple more from this session...
"Give her Mommy the boy"
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"They Love Cecil(?) to Play"
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"Your Dad Brings them back Down (?)"
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Notemanz wrote: Here are a couple more from this session...
"Give her Mommy the boy"
This one is very clear to me. It does seem to be saying that.
Wonder what it means?
Below are a couple of possible scenario's:
#1 -- Could be that at some time in the past some kids found an orphan boy and one of them suggested that he should be turned over to the mother of a girl who was there with them at that time. Perhaps this statement "Give her Mommy the boy" is part of what they all were talking about just before they all died from some accident or whatever... where somehow "time" captured that conversation where it's being replayed in some kind of a time loop -- right? Can't rule this out but as mentioned in another thread, it would be interesting to find out if anybody else got a recording of this same EVP when they were there at that location. Here's a webpage that talks about Residual Hauntings http://www.uk-paranormal.co.uk/Residual_Hauntings.htm
#2 -- Or they could just be kids in spirit where a boy somehow got separated from his family "up there" -- could be that like all kids, he prefers hanging out with those in his age group so he sees a group of kids playing and is drawn to them for this reason. So when he makes an appearance in this group, the kids are surprised to see him and think maybe he's "lost" ... so one of them makes the suggestion that he should be sent to the mother of one of the girls in the group who can help him find his way back to his "neck of the woods". That part of this conversation was recorded (by you) could mean that you just happen to be their at that time when they were having that conversation where they were not talking to you, of course, but were talking among themselves.
That those spirits are there at the house, may not necessarily mean that they are earthbound spirits but that they sometimes just like to hang out there with their friends every once in a while. Could be that they all lived there at one time and like to have meet-ups there! That their childhoods spent there when they were living on our plane was a joyful one.. this is why they like visiting there sometimes.
Lol.. just throwing out some idea's.
And here's another one.
#3 -- Maybe that "boy" has been stuck in the netherworld where he's too afraid to "go to the light" because of his fear of the unknown. So because of this he's earthbound where he's been hanging out at the house he grew up in. Well, this house is a very old one or perhaps it sits on the same property of an older home that had since been torn down for the new one built in the same spot. Could be that those other children are spirits who once lived in the older home who were "sent" there to somehow persuade that boy to go into the light... that Sally's mother will steer him into that direction and that they should turn him over to her! So in this regard, this conversation might be part of a spirit rescue effort on the part of the kids who are there with him now.
And finally, #4 -- maybe those spirits talking in this clip are members of your own spirit contact grp. who come into your recordings all the time where you were just catching some of their conversation at that time while recording. But, it's my guess that you would know if those voices belonged to your regular contacts so this scenario is one that you've already ruled out.
At any rate, there are many possible scenario's with this one and many potential movie plots too!!
#5 -- Oh... ok... then there's this scenario too --
They are ALL earthbound spirits strongly connected to that house where you just happened to be there when they were having a conversation about a mysterious boy spirit who wandered into the house or into the yard where someone suggested to turn him over to "Sally's" mom because she would know what to do with him..
But sure hope Sally's mom isn't like that other "mother" played by Nicole Kidman in that movie called "The Others".... that these spirits are even referring to "Sally's" mom could mean that this woman is still floating around the premises somewhere keeping those children there by telling them that they will die if they leave the house!! Hence why they are still stuck there... afraid to move into the light which means they would have to walk outside the front door to enter into it because that's where the light keeps showing up!
#6 -- and finally.. could be that the voices in this clip are just some benign terrestrial non-human intelligences saying any old thing just to give the impression that they are "ghosts". Throughout the ages, different cultures have given their own names for such entities. i.e. nature spirits, fairies, jinn, trolls, leprecauns, little people... etc... anyway, can't rule out that sometimes the source of some evp are from beings like this... I would imagine the ones who like playing games with humans would be the last ones to admit that they sometimes do this.
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WOW Estee I Love your scenarios!!! Very interesting! Thank so much for offering these imaginative possibilities.
Here are some observations/background re: the house. We've owned the house for 4 years and rather quickly, many strange things started happening. Bangs in the middle of the night, kitchen cabinets slamming open and closed early in the morning... Just a lot of activity. Finally, two separate people saw full body apparitions!
SInce buying th house, it's been related to us that we have "the most haunted house in Montecito."
I've recorded there many times. This is not our primary home. When I record there, there is an almost constant flood of talking. Like a party line! I have no explanation for this.
I have a hunch though.... One door down from us is a church. Like most churches, I'm sure there has been more than one on this spot over the last hundred years or so. Like many early churches of this area, I suspect there were cemetaries attached or near the grounds.
My guess is that our property may have been part of church property at one time and we may be sitting on cemetary ground. I have to contact the local historical society and do the research.... This may explain why I get so many captures here.
The land was originally Indian, then SPanish settler land. There are many oak trees on the property that are easily over 300 years old.
For fun, I'll post a short clip that illustrates the amount of talking. Some of it un-dechipherable....
Thanks for listening and I love the scenarios you described!
Best,
John D
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Notemanz
Lol... glad you enjoyed some of my scenario's -- could be too, just like you say, that they are earthbounds hanging out on land that once had a cemetery on it... these would be spirits who are hanging out there because they are too attached to their physical bodies and don't want to be separated from them... right? Why else would they be hanging out there anyway as I can't see that there's anything else about a cemetery that would make them want to stay there -- other than that.
Needless to say, this is very unsettling and disturbing when you think about it and I would think that living humans could do such spirits a great service by reminding them that they can always go toward the light or to accept a non-earthbound spirits offer to check out what's beyond the graveyard. As I understand it, such earthbound spirits feel closer and more connected to the living because they are on a level that's closer to us than to those who are on the more ethereal levels --- some say "higher levels". This is why those on our level are in a better position to help such spirits understand that they would do much better if they just moved toward the light than staying where they are now.
It would seem that cemeteries are excellent places for people on our side to assist those earthbounds there by serving as spirit rescuers and I admire those out there who have dedicated their lives by helping such spirits move on to a better place. A very honorable and praiseworthy vocation to say the least!
Look forward to those other recordings you mentioned.. will check back here later!! Wow! That's an interesting house you've got there!! I myself would be thrilled to live in such a place with so much activity like that.. how intriguing! They obviously want you to know that they are there when causing so much commotion like that... lol... that's funny! (though I imagine a little scary sometimes too!) And based on your recordings... they are communicating to you via EVP too! You are very fortunate because this gives you a window of opportunity to find out more about them and maybe even what's it's like where they are now.
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Hey John! Good to see you here too. Will listen to the others you have posted as soon as I have a chance! Vicki
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Just checking in for updates... that's wonderful John that you've got so many Old Oak tree's like that on your property. Lucky you!! I love old growth tree's! But, my sister and her family live in Marin County, CA and she's been complaining about the unfortunate demise of these tree's that have been dying off at an alarming rate in her area; including those on their property and other parts of California. Amazingly enough, scientists are unclear on what the exact culprit is in this regard but nevertheless, many people in those area's are very concerned about this situation.
I have a huge big oak in front of the hi-rise complex I live at that I sometimes hug when no one's around ... lol. Oddly enough, I get a little buzz when doing that and I can sometimes feel the energy emanating from it just by walking by it!
Oak tree's are special and it's no wonder the Druid's thought they were sacred.
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Hello Notemanz,
Nice recordings, and so clear. Very interesting home you live in, great for research, without having to travel too far . Do you like the sound soap pro program? What recorder do you use?
Hi Estee,
Lol... glad you enjoyed some of my scenario's -- could be too, just like you say, that they are earthbounds hanging out on land that once had a cemetery on it... these would be spirits who are hanging out there because they are too attached to their physical bodies and don't want to be separated from them... right? Why else would they be hanging out there anyway as I can't see that there's anything else about a cemetery that would make them want to stay there -- other than that.
I love your scenario's so much. Perhaps there is one more reason for earthbound's hanging around cemetery's. They may be still visiting their loved ones that passed when they were alive and were unable to get over their loss, thinking that the cemetery is the only place they can be close to them. In reality those they still mourn for have passed into the light without their knowledge. Just a thought, lol.
Take care,
Lynn
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Hello Notemanz,
Nice recordings, and so clear. Very interesting home you live in, great for research, without having to travel too far . Do you like the sound soap pro program? What recorder do you use?
Hi Estee,
Lol... glad you enjoyed some of my scenario's -- could be too, just like you say, that they are earthbounds hanging out on land that once had a cemetery on it... these would be spirits who are hanging out there because they are too attached to their physical bodies and don't want to be separated from them... right? Why else would they be hanging out there anyway as I can't see that there's anything else about a cemetery that would make them want to stay there -- other than that.
I love your scenario's so much. Perhaps there is one more reason for earthbound's hanging around cemetery's. They may be still visiting their loved ones that passed when they were alive and were unable to get over their loss, thinking that the cemetery is the only place they can be close to them. In reality those they still mourn for have passed into the light without their knowledge. Just a thought, lol.
Take care,
Lynn
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Oh my, This went on three times: how can I delete the extras-- Sorry
Hello Notemanz,
Nice recordings, and so clear. Very interesting home you live in, great for research, without having to travel too far . Do you like the sound soap pro program? What recorder do you use?
Hi Estee,
Lol... glad you enjoyed some of my scenario's -- could be too, just like you say, that they are earthbounds hanging out on land that once had a cemetery on it... these would be spirits who are hanging out there because they are too attached to their physical bodies and don't want to be separated from them... right? Why else would they be hanging out there anyway as I can't see that there's anything else about a cemetery that would make them want to stay there -- other than that.
I love your scenario's so much. Perhaps there is one more reason for earthbound's hanging around cemetery's. They may be still visiting their loved ones that passed when they were alive and were unable to get over their loss, thinking that the cemetery is the only place they can be close to them. In reality those they still mourn for have passed into the light without their knowledge. Just a thought, lol.
Take care,
Lynn
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Ozone wrote: Oh my, This went on three times: how can I delete the extras-- Sorry
Hello Notemanz,
Nice recordings, and so clear. Very interesting home you live in, great for research, without having to travel too far . Do you like the sound soap pro program? What recorder do you use?
Hi Estee,
Lol... glad you enjoyed some of my scenario's -- could be too, just like you say, that they are earthbounds hanging out on land that once had a cemetery on it... these would be spirits who are hanging out there because they are too attached to their physical bodies and don't want to be separated from them... right? Why else would they be hanging out there anyway as I can't see that there's anything else about a cemetery that would make them want to stay there -- other than that.
I love your scenario's so much. Perhaps there is one more reason for earthbound's hanging around cemetery's. They may be still visiting their loved ones that passed when they were alive and were unable to get over their loss, thinking that the cemetery is the only place they can be close to them. In reality those they still mourn for have passed into the light without their knowledge. Just a thought, lol.
Take care,
Lynn
Thanks for mentioning that one too! It certainly does make a lot of sense that perhaps many remain earthbound because they want to remain close to their loved ones where even when their loved ones die.. they then hang out at their graves too!! How tragic!! I would not be surprised that that scenario is another reason why some on what Mark Macy calls "The Dismal" level would hang out at cemetery's too but in either case, just knowing that some who pass over are stuck in such places is indeed very disturbing in the most extreme sense of the word.
Also.. just thought of this one but one reason perhaps why some stay by their own physical bodies could be because of those religious beliefs they held while living on this plane which they still retained when they passed over. For example, many Christian denominations believe that when one dies, they fall into a deep sleep where someday when Christ returns, they will awaken where their spirits will re-unite with their physical body where they will ascend PHYSICALLY, just like Jesus did, into heaven.
Well, perhaps many of these spirits who hang out at those graveyards where they were buried at, are sticking around there waiting for Christ to return so they can re-unite with their physical bodies at that point in time. Hence why they are staying there because they are too afraid to leave their grave plots because maybe they fear that they will not be able to locate it again or come back to it again if they wander away from it into the "light".
I supposed there are so many different reasons why they would choose to hang out at cemetery's and you and I have mentioned a couple of them but it would seem that for those who are going to these places to record EVP it would be in their best interest to attempt to understand why some of those spirits are there and that they deserve our respect and sympathy ... and that they also deserve our assistance to help them realize that there's so much more out there for them to explore than the place they've chosen to stay at. I just feel so sorry for them -- and I keep them in my prayers.. always. The Catholic Church has always said, "Pray for the dead"... and for good reason.
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Hi Estee,
I agree with you so much. It truly is sad that there are those that are remaining close to the earth plane due to any reason. That is a very important point that everyone should take into account when doing any research of "ghosts". I am in a group and we always say a prayer for " those that have wondered or are lost on the dark astral planes beyond death" and hold them strongly in the light to help them find their way to their true home.
Thank you,
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It's a stark reminder that not only are we to live our lives as decent human beings to the point where we are beyond reproach, and this includes giving up any physical and emotional addictions we may have too, we also have a responsibility to carefully examine those personal spiritual truths that are presented to us on a daily basis and to pay attention to them and try to understand them to the best of our ability. It's not an easy road to follow and sometimes it's a very lonely one too because it's also the one that's less traveled. But once one keeps on it and does not turn back, the rewards are immeasurably greater than one can ever imagine.
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Nicely stated Estee!!
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Great thoughts all! Who knows the why in our particular case. This is also a very beautiful place so just maybe some of these folks like it here! LOL we really feel that we're sharing the place!
Another idea occured to me... Because of the sheer volume of chatter, this might be some kind of a portal or energy area. I know this sounds wild, but there is just so much yacking! Here I'll post a short clip with lots of chatter...
Best,
John
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Hello John,
Notemanz wrote: Great thoughts all! Who knows the why in our particular case. This is also a very beautiful place so just maybe some of these folks like it here! LOL we really feel that we're sharing the place!
Another idea occured to me... Because of the sheer volume of chatter, this might be some kind of a portal or energy area. I know this sounds wild, but there is just so much yacking! Here I'll post a short clip with lots of chatter...
Best,
John
That is very interesting, perhaps it is portal or energy area like you stated. There certaintly is a lot of activity in that short clip. Thanks so much for sharing that.
Take care,
Lynn
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Guys here are a couple additional from this session.
"Wait For Me...?Wait For Me"
Seems to be two voices very whispery type.
The clearest part seems to be the "Wait For Me" bit.
Tell me what you hear!
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This one sounds like"
"Will You Face Me....? Get off of Me"
Little tough on this one...
Do you hear her voice?
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Hi John,
for some reason, this computer won't play the last two, but that crowd chatter one is very interesting! Vicki
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Hi!
Am hearing the "Wait for me" one but the next one is not clear enough for me to tell what's being said... sorry.
Also, lol, you're right, a lot of activity in that house! That's fer sure!
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Thanks Vicki and Estee yes these are more difficult to make out. They were in a different room that doesn't seem to have as much going on...
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John
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