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Hello everyone,
I"m new to this board, and other than the introduction section this is my first post on this board.
As I mentioned in the introduction thread, I'm really only into EVP at this time, but endeavor to migrate towards ITC as time goes on and I learn more about it. But for now, I"m doing all the EVP recording I can to get as much experience with that as possible. I've been recording for about a year or so, but more seriously in the past few months. I live on an island in the south shore of Nova Scotia Canada and there is plenty of history and old buildings and cemeteries here to explore and investigate.
I'm going to post an EVP that I recorded last week at a local cemetery, the hum at the beginning of the capture is from a passing vehicle, then you can hear a voice that I interpret as "Father's in there........" and then if you listen really closely at the end, I think I hear "good....god". This clip has not been modified in any way other than cutting it out of the original recording and converting it from a .wma file to an .mp3 file. I"m using an Olympus WS-300M digital voice recorder with the setting on the lowest quality recording (for some yummy internal noise...lol).
The interesting part of the recording is that at the time I was standing in front of a grave stone, and had just asked if anyone was still "here", so I guess it's the son of the guy buried there that answered me!
I hope you can hear the same thing that I do!
Chris C
Attachment: my-fathers-in-there-good-god-25oct07-centerville-cemetery-from-recording-WS_30016.mp3 (Downloaded 1125 times)
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Here's the same clip that I amplified a touch, and cleaned it up, reducing some noise to hopefully hear the voice a bit better.
Chris C
Attachment: my-fathers-in-there-good-god-25oct07-centerville-cemetery-from-recording-WS_30016-noise-reduced.mp3 (Downloaded 1098 times)
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Hi Chris,
I'm not one for putting forth interpretations of the recordings of other people, as you will find. I did listen to the clip though, and I did hear evp. I liked how the motor sound of a car passing by in the distance was used to create words.
Thanks for sharing!
Keith
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Hi Chris,
I'm not one to ask or comment on how one edited their EVP clip and for them to tell us what filters they used. I'm to find that it's usually those EVP recorders who consistently get Class A or B recordings who request that information all of the time from others where they are usually critical of any kind of editing/filtering of EVP because their EVP is already clear enough for others to hear without any kind of editing at all! I get the impression that they don't think it's fair that a person who does not get as good of EVP as they do should be allowed to edit their EVP to make them clearer for others to hear; the fact that they themselves do not have to edit their EVP -- no one else should either -- but this isn't right, of course.
For people like this, it's more of a competitive thing where this issue of filtering EVP or not turns into 'who's the more talented EVP recorder here?'
In short, there's nothing wrong with filtering ones clip so that you and others can hear what's being said in it more clearly so I'm glad you edited your clip but IMHO, it was not necessary for you to post the raw version of that clip here... lol, we trust you!
And by asking the EVP recorder to post their raw recording and to say what filters they used on their 'edited' recordings puts that person in an uncomfortable position because it implies that whomever is asking for that information does not TRUST the EVP recorder and thinks that they faked their EVP when usually 99 times out of 100, that's not the case at all. In fact, the vast majority of people who post their EVP in these forums are honest where all they want to do is share their EVP with others and have others comment on if they are hearing the same thing in it as they are. Like what you are doing here Chris by posting your EVP.
There's also the arugument that over editing can change what the raw EVP was saying but many long time EVP recorders know that some EVP are multi-layered (in terms of pitch) where if one changes the pitch a little, or slows it down a little or even speeds it up a little -- on an otherwise fuzzy crackling i.e. cookie monster voice EVP only to find a crystal clear voice saying something in a very coherent phrase, then there's no reason to not accept that this is what that anomolous voice is saying. In fact, reversing EVP has also resulted in some very coherent EVP and some people seem to get EVP like this more than others. In fact, everybody seems to get their own kinds of voices coming in where they eventually know what to do with them to make them clearer. At any rate, those who do not believe in editing each have their own version of what 'over-editing' is. Personally, when I'm listening to my EVP, all I'm interested in is the message and for this reason I will sometimes play around with some of those BASIC filters to see if there's anything interesting to those evp after I apply those filters to them. But I do not Denoise... this takes out too much information and in fact does change the EVP by doing that in such a way that to me, it's no longer saying what it was meant to be interpreted as saying.
Unlike Keith, (sounds like he does not like to post his interpretation publicly)-- but, I do like interpreting EVP because I'm always interested in finding out what spirits are saying. I personally can't think of anything more fascinating but the only way to find out is to try to understand and interpret the EVP as much as possible. This said though, I can understand where Keith is coming from on this because even with Class A recordings, there's never a 100 percent consensus on what that EVP is saying. Much of it also has to do with whatever sound card one has installed in their computer and even which media player or sound editor they are using to listen to the EVP clip...
This said, I'm sorry but I can't pick out much of what's being said in your recording. I'm sure others here might be able to do that but even when I loaded it into an editor, the only thing I think I might be hearing is 'good god' but I don't think that I would be catching that (even that part was fuzzy though.. sorry) if you had not mentioned what you are hearing this voice saying.
But the good thing is these do seem like anomalous voices so that's a good start and I'm sure as you continue to record, you will most definitely get more clearer EVP as time goes by.
By the way, I was the first one to download your recording and Keith was the second person to do that. I did not comment at first because I was curious to find out if anybody else could hear what you do in it -- and I hope that still happens! Anyway, thanks for sharing and please post more of your EVP here if you have any.. I would love to listen to them!
All of the above are just my opinions and nothing more.
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Hi Estee and Keith,
Don't worry, I am open to criticism and don't take anything personally when someone gives a suggestion or tells me they don't hear the same thing I don't, it's like you said, there are alot of factors including the equipment used to play a capture back with that effect the way it is presented to the listener, let alone the fact that everyone's hearing is different, and everyone's brain interprets things differently.
I agree with what your saying about editing EVP's, there is a certain point (which seems to be at the descretion of the recorder) where you are changing the data in the capture to the point where it is no longer the same information you started out with, and really when you think about it, you can manipulate a sound recording to make it sound like anything you want eventually. I like to experiment with different filters to see what kind of sounds I can bring out or clarify by using the program, but I never lose sight of what the originall capture is saying.
I didn't realize there was a competitive factor in EVP recording, to me that is a bit of a strange concept. Personally, my only point of posting a capture is because I like to share my excitement in what I just recorded with other people who have similar interests. I can't imagine why someone would go through the trouble of faking an evp, one must really be hurting for attention to do something like that.
I guess wherever you go there are some people who have their ego problems, why would the internet be any different I guess. That's too bad though if that is the case, life is too short for squabbling and not getting along, I still like to beleive that there are good people out there in the world, I know at least that I'm one of them! hehe
I played this file on my wife's older laptop, and I couldn't hear anything either, but I can hear it plain as day on my dell PC with a high quality soundcard, playing it via adobe audition, and my headphones are creative lab deep base headphones with a frequency response of 6hz - 24khz.
I've recorded many EVP's, and I usually post them on another website I belong to, most time people hear what I hear, but there are times they hear something different than I do, and I'm fine with that. In fact I'm intrigued with the variations of what people hear in a capture! I'm here to learn and interact, not be arrogant and closed minded! Since I'm new here I want everyone here to know that I'm quite open to their comments or critisism, and I have no problem disclosing anything about what I've done to a file before posting it.
I don't really care if someone beleives me or not about what I recorded, I know what is real and what is not, and I don't need to prove anything to anyone, all I know is that EVP has really opened my mind to a whole new world of possibilities, and it's made a true beleiver out of me!
Thanks for your comments and for listening!
Chris ;)
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Hi Chris!
I enjoyed reading your last post! You sound very intelligent quite knowledgeable about a few things having to do with this phenomenon than most new beginners ... and that's great! Sounds like you're off to a good start!
I'm just on my way out and will comment more later (tomorrow) on some of what you brought up in your last post. Great that you like talking about this stuff as much as I do and everybody else here too!
Talk later!
Estee
PS -- Just wondering but could you take this EVP that you posted in the thread and ' manipulate' it so that it's saying something different than what you are hearing? - I'm curious on how one would do that without actually adding fake evp sounding voices to it. As it is right now, just take it for granted that most of us cannot discern what's being said in your EVP but that by 'filtering' it, you can change it so that we all will be hearing a coherent voice talking in it. I just want to see how you would do that.
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HI Estee,
I'm not really that talented with sound editing programs yet,
I mean I could alter something until it's unrecognizable, but that is not to say I was "molding" it into something I wanted, but more like messing it up beyond recognition...lol.
I use adobe audition, and I know my way around it pretty good, but I'm not an expert that's for sure.
I posted this very EVP on another messageboard called "Ghost village", and one of the members there modified it with some sort of software, and stated that he hears "Far Horizons" in this EVP, and not "Father's in there" such as I do. After listening to his modification, I do also hear "Far Horizons" in that modified file, but still hear "Father's in there" in the unaltered file. The ghostvillage member posted the modified file here:
http://media.putfile.com/you-tell-me-what-it-says3
As you can see, I called the file you-tell-me-what-it-says because I wanted to see what everyone else thought it said before I gave my interpretation.
I asked the member what he did to the file to make it sound like that, but he did not answer yet what he did, I'm curious because it sounds so much different. To me, this is a prime example of overprocessing an EVP file, too much has changed from the original to preserve it's original integrety. I really do appreciate the member's effort to help clarify the file, (I hope I don't sound unappreciative!) but to me now it's become something else. By the way, thanks for your compliment about my intelligence, I just try to take the time to think things through, and make sense when I"m posting things.
I'm not sure if I"m still actually a beginner, when do you lose your beginner status and become an intermediate?...LOL I've been experimenting quite a bit in the past few months, and reading alot. I've actually been into EVP for about a year now, but only seriously recording in the past few months. I'm finding there is alot of info about EVP out there, but alot of it is repetitive in nature from common sources, one of which is AAEVP.
I'm a technical kinda guy, I'm an electronics tech, and a computer network tech, I work for a major internet provider here in Canada, I like to mess around with designing and building gadgets, so recording and this kinda stuff is right up my alley.
I plan to have a full duplex spirit communication device perfected and on the market before Christmas...hehe.
Thanks again,
Chris ;)
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HI Estee,
I'm not really that talented with sound editing programs yet,
I mean I could alter something until it's unrecognizable, but that is not to say I was "molding" it into something I wanted, but more like messing it up beyond recognition...lol.
I use adobe audition, and I know my way around it pretty good, but I'm not an expert that's for sure.
I posted this very EVP on another messageboard called "Ghost village", and one of the members there modified it with some sort of software, and stated that he hears "Far Horizons" in this EVP, and not "Father's in there" such as I do. After listening to his modification, I do also hear "Far Horizons" in that modified file, but still hear "Father's in there" in the unaltered file. The ghostvillage member posted the modified file here:
http://media.putfile.com/you-tell-me-what-it-says3
As you can see, I called the file you-tell-me-what-it-says because I wanted to see what everyone else thought it said before I gave my interpretation.
I asked the member what he did to the file to make it sound like that, but he did not answer yet what he did, I'm curious because it sounds so much different. To me, this is a prime example of overprocessing an EVP file, too much has changed from the original to preserve it's original integrety. I really do appreciate the member's effort to help clarify the file, (I hope I don't sound unappreciative!) but to me now it's become something else. By the way, thanks for your compliment about my intelligence, I just try to take the time to think things through, and make sense when I"m posting things.
I'm not sure if I"m still actually a beginner, when do you lose your beginner status and become an intermediate?...LOL I've been experimenting quite a bit in the past few months, and reading alot. I've actually been into EVP for about a year now, but only seriously recording in the past few months. I'm finding there is alot of info about EVP out there, but alot of it is repetitive in nature from common sources, one of which is AAEVP.
I'm a technical kinda guy, I'm an electronics tech, and a computer network tech, I work for a major internet provider here in Canada, I like to mess around with designing and building gadgets, so recording and this kinda stuff is right up my alley.
I plan to have a full duplex spirit communication device perfected and on the market before Christmas...hehe.
Thanks again,
Chris ;)
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Weird, sorry for the double post!
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Hi Estee,
If you can, please remember that this is not the same forum you came from. All of the concepts above didn't exist in this forum until you brought them here from your post above. Please keep your experiences elsewhere separated from your experience here. For example - the discussion of the word "competitive" was totally unnecessary - especially as intro to someone new - as you explain how ITC and experimentation work.
This board is very simple - We experiment, we share, we learn, we grow. That's it, and nothing more.
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Chris,
All I did was load your original unedited recording into Cool Edit/Audition,
--isolate that section where Far Horizons was heard in that Ghost Village's version of your recording...
-- where I then lowered the pitch a teeny tiny bit and Far Horizons was heard loud and clear.
--Yet when I loaded your 'denoised recording' into Cool Edit and isolated that same area where Far Horizons was supposed to be and lowered the pitch of that section a teeny tiny bit, Far Horizons was not heard at all. That's because when you cleaned up your recording, you also took away important information from that recording. This is why I do not Denoise my recordings because that's what happens when one does that... it erases important EVP information.
Lowering the pitch a tad bit , like that Ghost Village member did... and that's all he/she did -- does not fall into the category of 'over-processing'. Granted it's still 'editing' ... it's not over-processing by any stretch.
--But denoising/cleaning up your clip DOES fall into the category of 'over-processing' , at least in this case, because by doing so, you deleted/erased important EVP information from where that Far Horizon's section is where it no longer sounds like Far Horizons at all when the pitch of that section was slightly lowered -- hence you 'changed' that EVP into something else... into something 'un-intelligible'.
This is why so many know that there are some EVP that are multi-layered, (just like there are some 'reversed' EVP out there) in terms of pitch. Where on first listen, you know there's an anomalous voice there but it's too blurry or gravelly a voice to make out what it's saying, so in that case one can lower or raise the pitch (usually raise) of that section a tad bit where that 'voice' is to see if anything lies above it or below it. Many times one will find a name or short phrase being said very clearly -- as what we are hearing in your recording that was edited by that Ghost Village member. Good that you ran into that person because it sounds like he knows what he's doing!
In this case, it's called a negative 1 pitch modification because that's the level that "Far Horizons" is being heard on. But I myself usually find very clear EVP when I raise the pitch of some of some blurry EVP where many times, what's being said on the positive 1 pitch level is much, much clearer than what's being said on the surface of that same recording on first listen.
Hope you find this information interesting! The EVP field is so new, all of us are always learning new things. But the bottom line is this, document your findings... keep a journal of them and then share your insights with others. We are all here to learn and grow and granted there will always be disagreements and differing opinions on this and that, the important thing is to remain open minded on things because after all... we ARE dealing with a paranormal phenomenon. Most of what you will be finding out about EVP will be based on YOUR own personal experiences with it.
Also, I would suggest you join AA-EVP's forum. I'm telling ya, there's not one place on the internet that matches up to the information about EVP that you will get there... and it's so astounding... you just wouldn't believe! At this point in time, you don't even have a clue what you're missing in regards to what EVP is all about. Just my .02 here but please do seriously consider it. There's no way you are going to find out about EVP if you are just having to rely on information from the internet or in all of those EVP forums out there where most of those members of those groups have a very distorted and incomplete knowledge of this phenomenon even though many of them try to pass themselves off as 'experts'... but they are anything but that. Trust me, I'm telling you the truth.
And finally, great that you are currently building a device for spirit communication... that sounds exciting! There are a few here who are doing that too! Please keep us updated on this and great that you've got the professional background to be able to do that!
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Keith Clark wrote: Hi Estee,
If you can, please remember that this is not the same forum you came from. All of the concepts above didn't exist in this forum until you brought them here from your post above. Please keep your experiences elsewhere separated from your experience here. For example - the discussion of the word "competitive" was totally unnecessary - especially as intro to someone new - as you explain how ITC and experimentation work.
This board is very simple - We experiment, we share, we learn, we grow. That's it, and nothing more.
Keith Sorry Keith! I understand what you are saying and I tried to come up with a better word than competitive but couldn't think of one at the time. In any case, I'll stay clear of this controversial subject from here on.
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Keith Clark wrote: Hi Estee,
If you can, please remember that this is not the same forum you came from. All of the concepts above didn't exist in this forum until you brought them here from your post above. Please keep your experiences elsewhere separated from your experience here. For example - the discussion of the word "competitive" was totally unnecessary - especially as intro to someone new - as you explain how ITC and experimentation work.
This board is very simple - We experiment, we share, we learn, we grow. That's it, and nothing more.
Keith
Whoa! Just re-read your comment here again Keith and it's my understanding that this forum is here to be able to share our experiences and insights and the EVP Mult-Level (some call it Mult-layered) concept is common knowledge among experienced long time EVP recorders. It's been around for years now! I'm not introducing new information here at all! And I would not be supporting the veracity of this concept if I didn't find it to be true myself.
For example, many times we will be hearing EVP where a another entirely different EVP voice will seem like it's either under the more 'up front' EVP voice .. or it will seem like it's over-lapping the the other voices. This is one example of the Mult-layered EVP Concept.
But if you yourself personally disagree with this EVP concept (edit: though I doubt that and I'm thinking you only have another term for it .. so that's cool...), as this seems to be the case -- where you are telling me not to discuss it, I'm very disappointed that you feel that way but I will nevertheless honor your request on this as a member of this forum.
My work for the past couple of years has focused exclusively on ITC video's anyway and this is reason why I'm here... to share my insights and my experiment results. Nevertheless, I always encourage new EVP recorders to continue in their experiments in this area where I also encourage them to join AA-EVP just to get things off and running because there's so much more to EVP than what's to be found at haunted houses... lol.
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Hi Estee,
Thanks for your input, you sound like you are very experienced with EVP and ITC, I will show you the respect you and all others who take the time to sare your knowledge with me that you desrve.
Just so you and Keith know, I was not offended at all by your post about competitiveness, and think I understand what you were trying to say, and it sounds like you had my best interest at heart so I appretiate that.
I think what happens is that people gain a little bit of knowledge and then suddenly they think they know everything, I assure you, I'm definitely not like that. If someone disagrees with me, I take the time to listen to what they say, and consider the fact that they might know more than me or have more experience than me, and open my mind to that, rather than letting my ego get in the way. If I was always right, I would probably be single by now...lol. I also have a brain though, and if someone is feeding me a line of bull, I'm smart enough to figure that out.
You have made an attempt to feed me info as well as put me in touch with a valid source of information and I appreciate that. I really considered joining AAEVP but cheaped out and didn't want to pay the 30 bucks, but I think I'll change my mind and join up as I've heard more good than bad about them at AAEVP.
Sorry if I've caused anyone trouble, it is only my intent to connect with others of similar interest and share concepts and captures with each otrher.
Thanks again for all the info everyone!
Chris ;)
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It's worth the 30 dollars to join AA-EVP.. believe me! I can assure you that you will not regret it.
But hope that you continue to participate here on this board! It's great having you here!
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Of course I will continue to come here and participate, I can sense there are a bunch of really good people in here!!
Chris ;)
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NS-EVP wrote: Of course I will continue to come here and participate, I can sense there are a bunch of really good people in here!!
Chris ;)
We are all good people here and I know this because I'm familiar with most members in this forum and have been for at least 3 or 4 years now. The only thing we are interested in is ITC experimentation and getting the best possible results we can possibly get -- that's all that's important. I'm just telling you to join AA-EVP because for the past couple of years, I've been observing other EVP forums and I'm finding an incredible amount of misinformation about the ITC/EVP phenomenon perpetuated by people who amazingly just do not have a clue about a whole other area about this phenomenon that they negate because they've simply not had the opportunity to learn about it and experience it. And forget about ITC images, these same self-described 'experts' don't even recognize this phenomenon at all and that's really ... well, INCREDIBLE.
But the main thing about what's been going on now on the internet in these forums is that there are people who are calling themselves experts in the EVP field who don't even know anything about the history of EVP!! Nor are they even familiar with those current well-known experts in this field now!! When I direct them to World ITC, for example, and these are people who head up some major ghost hunting operations who claim to be EVP experts (and I'm talking about BIG names here), you would just be amazed how many of these people have never picked up a book written by any of the EVP/ITC pioneer's at all. One would think that such individuals would have at least familiarized themselves with such big names in a field they claim to be experts in... but NO.. they know nothing about the history of EVP.. zilch.. nothing. Amazing isn't it? But, there's a whole lot more they don't know about too and this is so mind boggling, it has been hard for me to even wrap my mind around it. The long and the short of it is.. IGNORANCE REIGNS!
At any rate, I've been on quite a journey with this internet exploration of mine so if there's anyone here who knows what they are talking about in this regard, it's me. Join up to AA-EVP's forum. You may find yourself disagreeing with a few things people are saying there but instead of focusing on the little things, instead, look at the big picture. EVP is BIG.. real BIG. It's a lot bigger than you can ever even possibly imagine even in your wildest dreams and a good start on that realization is found at that forum.
Start off on the right foot. Join AA-EVP.
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Hi Chris,
I'm sure you will find that you're welcome at both forums - ITC Bridge and AAEVP. I am a member of both - and I started my journey with ITC at the AAEVP forum. I also highly recommend it.
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Keith Clark wrote: Hi Chris,
I'm sure you will find that you're welcome at both forums - ITC Bridge and AAEVP. I am a member of both - and I started my journey with ITC at the AAEVP forum. I also highly recommend it.
Keith
Hi Keith,
Thanks for the welcome. I'm sure I will end up joining at some point in time soon. It's just one of those things you need to get around to. I am very interested in ITC as well, that's actually why I signed up here, to hopefully gain more insight on the subject and learn some techniques. I've read about a few different techniques for ITC via the TV set, but I'm not really sure what I need to get started with a basic setup. What resource can you recommend that gives a step by step ITC guide for various techniques? I've been to the AAEVP techniques site, but it really didn't give me too much details on specific instructions. There is so much information out there the problem is I find myself reading forever just to extract little bits of information here and there and it's difficult to put it all together, I'm not that organized...lol.
Thanks
Chris ;)
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Great NS that you want to try out the ITC feedback loop method and that's a good place to start!
After you start getting ITC images for awhile, don't be surprised if something like this happens to you one day. Lol... "they' like making their own movies sometimes too!
I found these video's one day -- they were directly inserted into my C directory. I never save any of my files directly into my C Directory but that's where they were found. They were also labeled in a way that I never label my ITC/EVP files... nor do I ever record avi movies but I have some old software with my old webcam that does save webcam movies in that format so 'they' used that old software I had already installed in my computer at the time to record these movies.
Below is a screenshot of my C Directory showing where these video's were found. See ScreenCam avi files near the bottom of the below picture? Notice the time when each was recorded.
Each were only taken one minute apart. One was of my leather recliner and another was also of my leather recliner but WITH SOMEONE IN IT (and someone was behind it too where its large ROUND head bopped up for a second and went back down). There are also other beings/spirits in this video too. I put them on some You Tube pages for anyone to view. The quality is poor because they used no lighting and closed the blinds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhlS-jH2DAA
Here's a slowed down version of the above movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXia06WNMVg
And here's the other movie showing only the chair taken only a minute before the above movie was recorded. Notice the difference in the lighting. That's because 'they' closed the blinds to record the second movie. But the blinds were open at the time when this one was recorded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xem9Su4pl4s
The reason why they also recorded one of just my recliner in the daylight was to point out that the second video also shows the recliner but with someone in it and other spirits around that chair too.
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Hi Estee,
That's pretty kewl, I viewed the movies, they are hard to see but I think I can see what your talking about.
How would a spirit record movies and put them on your PC?? Sounds pretty scary to me to think they have that much power in our realm to do something like that!
Do you ever hear or see the spirits or anything they do in person without any recording equipment?
Chris ;)
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I have an ITC movie where the spirit actually was showing up OUTSIDE OF THE TV SCREEN even though I had my movie cam on a tripod directed at the tv screen but when I played back the movie.. the spirit was outside of screen! This happened in one of my ITC movie sessions.
I'm looking it up now and will put it on a You Tube page.
But yes, there are funny things that go on around here where I live.. the more I experiment in ITC, the more 'active' it gets around here. Sometimes I have to stop doing ITC/EVP sessions for awhile just to quiet things down.
Also... yes, it's scary all right about finding those video's and then watching them. I try not think about it too much though... lol, especially at night.
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It's hard to really comprehend that we are constantly surrounded by spirits who watch our every move. I'm still getting used to the concept.
I recorded an EVP that made me really start thinking about privacy and the spirit world, I came to the conclusion we don't have any privacy!
I had just gone to the bathroom, and just happened to have my recorder with me, so for some reason, most likely me just being a goof as usual I turned it on and asked the spirits "did you see what I just did"??
To my amazement (and actually embarrasment at that moment when I realized I was being watched) when I played the recording back there was a clear female voice that said "YES" ...LOL
Thoughts of every private moment I've ever had in my life being observed suddenly became very disturbing to me!! I spoke with some other people about this, and they informed me that they actually asked the spirits to give them their privacy, and that they feel they have complied and no longer are being observed in their "private moments".
Since your house is very active, are you weirded out by the feeling you are constantly being observed??
Chris ;)
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We all go through that. Many of us hear a high pitched sound when we ask them to pop by for awhile because we want to start up a recording session. This is one way they let us know when they are there and ready to participate in the session.
But the fact is, they are always around and one just has to get used to it. And just think about it, WE ARE NEVER ALONE because we are surrounded by them at all times -- some of them are watching over us and protecting us in ways we aren't even aware of most of the time. They are everywhere and once you realize that, it changes your entire worldview in a very compelling way!
Anyway, the longer you are involved in spirit paranormal activities like recording EVP, for example, you will be even able to hear them sometimes talking to you outside of sessions. But that's another whole different area but if it happens to you, don't be surprised.
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I think if I were to disclose to my shrink that I was constantly surrounded by spirits and that they were with me at all times watching everything that I do I might be the recipient of some strong drugs as well as a nice padded room...LOL
You have to be careful who you confide in as not everyone is as open to the paranormal as one would like them to be. I do think people are slowly coming around though and realizing that there is something more out there, they might not know what in particular (none of us really do), but they are aware there is more to the picture than meets the eye at least.
I was also inspired by the movie "White Noise", I remember watching the movie and thinking "that would be rally kewl if this was true", and then I was stunned to realize that this was based on true research that was ongoing. That little clip at the end of the movie from AAEVP looked really interesting, so I decided if it was really that easy as they showed in the clip, then I was going to try it out and give it a chance to see if it was all bs, or if it really was that easy.
There are of course others drawn to this I think because of the loss of a loved one, or because we suddenly are faced by a reality check of the awareness of our own mortality for one reason or another.
My very first EVP I captured over a year ago was in a creepy little loft apartment we were temporarily staying in while we were house hunting in the country side of Nova Scotia. I simply left the recorder running over night and was amazed that I really did capture a few EVP's on that recording. I captured one saying "shoot the boy, shoot the man", and another one that said "they're crying" in a whispery female voice. I got the feeling something very bad happened on that old farm.
Ever since then I was hooked, and determined to learn more about this phenomena. I'm actually an electronics tech by trade, and also an internet specialist working for a large internet provider in Canada. So I like that there is a technical aspect to this type of experimentation since I like to design and build circuits and gadgets anyhow.
When you say you hear the spirits talking to you "outside of the session", do you mean you hear a voice without the aid of any equipment directly?
That would scare me and/or worry me that I was losing my mind!!
Chris ;)
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Hi Estee,
That was a great video!!! Can you please post it in the video itc section? Both the original and the slowed down version?
At first, I perhaps thought "yeah, right"..............then I saw the video. I did see spirit in it multiple times. Have you extracted and frames or pictures from it??? I think it would be great if you would post it in the video thread.
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I agree Keith, it was really kewl wasn't it? I hope to be able to capture stuff like that one day.
What intrigues me about that is how she says "they" did it all on "their"own!
Chris C
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Yes, that's what I mean. Those whom I'm in contact with on a regular basis via EVP will sometimes say hi to me or I love you or We love you and say their name too. It happens when I'm in a relaxed state when watching tv or meditating etc... or just before I'm ready to doze off -- but I will sometimes here them say their name even when I'm wide awake, as if they are talking into my ear standing by me on side or the other...
In fact, quite a few recorders have reported this phenomenon too after they've been recording EVP for a while at least based on those EVP recorders who have been participating on different forums on line. So I don't think it's unusual for some EVP recorders to experience this.
I personally invite them to communicate to me this way and I think if they see that you are open to that form of communication then they will work with you to get better at it.
As for the fear factor in all of this. I've had a spirit communicating with me for many years now. This was before I started recording EVP on a regular basis. First it was a male voice and then it was female. Usually I hear her voice just as I'm falling asleep at night where she will simply say my name a few times but it's very loud and clear... usually there's an electrical zing/jolt before that happens. But this same voice will wake me up in the middle of some dreams sometimes as if to let me know that I should remember some aspects of that dream. But sometimes this same voice will wake me up in the middle of a nightmare or a bad dream -- as if it's rescuing me from that dream situation back into a waking state.
I've also seen spirit materialization's into almost physical states -- 3x's. The first one was a young woman dressed out the sixties, the second time was a child's hand, the third time was a woman in a white mourning gown who actually walked up to me and touched me .. then disappeared -- that child's hand touched me too.
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Keith Clark wrote: Hi Estee,
That was a great video!!! Can you please post it in the video itc section? Both the original and the slowed down version?
At first, I perhaps thought "yeah, right"..............then I saw the video. I did see spirit in it multiple times. Have you extracted and frames or pictures from it??? I think it would be great if you would post it in the video thread.
Keith
Thanks Keith! I'll post it into that section and will isolate some frames and photo's of it.
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Hi Estee,
It's funny you mention that! I "almost" mentioned to you on my last post what I experienced just as I was falling asleep a few nights, but then thought, "naw", it's not real, I"m just imagining things! You see I've had that happen to me several times, I'm just drifting off to sleep, and in some weird state of conciousness, and I either hear a voice saying something like my name or a few words, or sometimes I hear music, clear as a bell, but it startles me and I wake up, or whatever you want to call it from that state. It's very weird when that happens because it is so quiet, and the voice is so loud and clear, almost screaming sometimes. To be honest I thought it might be medication causing that to happen!
Maybe I should set my recorder and then go to bed and if it happens, see if anything shows up on the recorder.
Oddly enough, I rarely get scared, but there have been a few instances where I sensed something that made me feel so uncomfortable I had to leave the premisis. It was different than fear, it was like "evil", and my instinct was to put distance between me and it, but certainly not panicking or anything.
The old house I live in now has absolutely no vibes whatsoever, it's weird, and I rarely can record any EVP's in my house either, it's almost like a protective sheild is around it or something. The house was originally built as a parsonage, maybe that has something to do with it.
Chris ;)
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That would be interesting if you set you recorder on to see if you can catch that voice you sometimes hear. I did that one time and in the morning on playback I heard myself saying "This is Grace Baldwin, I'll come back at 3:00". I personally don't know of anyone by that name.
Anyway, I'm sure you will eventually be able to record at home when you practice recording there. If you are not getting anything now then it sounds like there are no previous residents hanging around there... and that's good! But try contacting one of your relatives or friends who have passed over the other side and see what happens.
Turning in for night! Talk later and thanks for your feedback! It's fun talking to you1
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Hi Estee,
You will be pleased to know that I just joined up at AAEVP !
Don't worry, I still intend on coming here as often as I have been!
It wasn't all because of you, I had already decided I wanted to join, I just never got around to it, but your little push helped me out...lol.
It's odd about recording in this house, I'm beginning to think they intentionally do not speak to me here. The only time I ever get anything here is by accident, like when I first turn on the recorder but haven't said anything, I'll get some words or mumbling, but as soon as I start talking....silence....
Since this old house was originally built as a parsonage I though maybe it had some kind of blessing with a protective bubble over it, prohibiting entry from any spirits...lol.
I'll post a quiet whisper I can barely hear and you tell me what you think it says. I recorded it just like I said, at the start of a recording, "before" I announced myself or said anything out loud. This file was simply clipped out of the original .wma file and converted to an mp3, other than that, no modifications have been done to it.
Take care,
Chris ;)
Attachment: unknown-whisper-31oct07-lliving-room.mp3 (Downloaded 809 times)
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Wow! That's great! Hope you enjoy it! Also, check out Martha Copeland's Big Circle too!
Also, sounds like you've captured another EVP though on first listen in Windows Media Player, I can't tell what it's saying. This said, because you posted it, I'm assuming that you can understand what it's saying so I'm curious to find out what that is.
At any rate, great that you're capturing EVP voices and looking forward to seeing you capture more clear ones as time goes by. It might help to do your EVP sessions the same time everyday too! Good Luck!
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Hi Estee,
I do try to do the recordings at the same time of the day when possible, but sometimes life's busy schedule makes that kinda hard.
I've already found lots of usefull info at AAEVP, I'm glad I signed up, thanks for the push...lol.
Chris;)
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