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 Posted: Jan 21st, 2007 08:05 PM
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Greetings Luiz,

The link doesn't work, do you have another one?

 

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 I've been doing EVP work since 2000, and have had some pretty wierd stuff come through, sometimes threatening,especaiily inthe beginning. Just the darkheads not wanting anyone to lose their fear I guess.  When threatend, I tell them "bring it!" with no response, so I guess it's just a paper tiger? I've had some entities try to intimidate, but they lose energy quickly, and have never been harmful. I think the trick is to not allow yourself to enter a state of fear. At first there was stuff banging on the walls, and once, as I went to the other room to sleep, since my wife was snoring like a freight train, just as I fell a sleep something slapped the closet door, like someone slipping it with the palm of the hand as hard as they could. I about jumped to the ceiling, but made myself lay there and ignore it, I was determined not to be affraid. I've had vision like things where bitting teeth fly up right in my face, I just wait, and it's gone in seconds. I've had voices say they'll poison my coffee, well I still drink coffee.  I found if the voices get too obnoxious, just delete, or erase them, for some reason that makes the bad ones stop, don't know why.

 

 "The guys" call me a Purple, so my expereince may not not be typical of most. I am uncertain of just what a Purple is, but it seems to have a catholic conncetion. This is an older voice form 2003, I had added a tomne gnerator to that board, so all the voices form it have that tone in the background.

 

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Hello Frank,

I would definitely have to agree with you. I've been experimenting for over a year.......and I've been fortunate enough to either not receive any negative comments or simply just not hear them.

My experience has been that the hardest part of experimenting is your own fears.......even if nobody has something mean or rotten to say. It took me a good 6-12 months to restrain my fears and push them away. If you're having a hard time hearing a file and you're afraid, what's going to happen? You're going to hear exactly what you don't want to hear, in turn making you more afraid........a cycle.

In agreement,
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Agreed,

Only thing to fear is fear itself! 

One's state of mind can be used against oneself if fear rules the roost.

I concur with both of you.

 

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I have to validate the 'extra' activity also. I have never received anything threatening but I have got the noises, visual flashes (lights), light and hard touches (mostly on the head), and so on.

Frank

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I've had the imposters,jokers and been effed at but the origonal post was about circles and mediumship developement.Believe me I've seen some hairy things in circles that are not properly conducted.

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Hi all,

Interesting thread.  With regards to ITC/EVP, which some of you have mentioned here, I once got a 2-minute "scream" on the Panasonic RRDR60 when I first started recording.  I curiously decided to denoise the mess and got an entity saying among other things that he was about to sell my deceased son's soul to the devil.  I did not feel afraid nor did I think this entity would actually be capable of doing such a thing.  Not being appropriate communication, I deleted it. 

What is also very interesting about this is that I have never received a critically nasty EVP about me personally, although I could very well have since no one is perfect.  Some have been cautionary, such as "That's not a good idea," about something I might be doing that thwarts connection or growth, but nothing nasty.  They seem to be very diplomatic for the most part, and when they are not, they seem to have tongue in cheek about any criticism given, or else they give nothing but constructive advice.  Vicki

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Hi Guy's


Yes!  I have to agree you should be very careful.  I'm new to trying EVP/ITC, but I'm not new to practicing deep meditation.  Those who wish to endeavor into this area, please try to get in touch with someone who is/has done it and get some pointers from them.  Better still, have them guide you through it.

I got involved into meditation to try the good ole Astral Projection, what I got was not expected.  It took some 2 years to get any results, but then I begun to get flashes of Stuff I was really not ready for.

I've unfortunately put the brakes on meditation until I can meet up with someone who I feel comfortable with, knowing they are the real deal and hopefully are willing to guide me through it.

I would like to join a circle, but finding the right people can be very hard to come across. :wink:

So in a nut shell, before going into anything beyond your knowledge, seek help from others or it can be like playing with a box of matches at a explosives factory! :blushing:


PS: I done a heap of research, purchasing meditation tapes etc etc, the one thing I didn't do was get the "hands on" help of someone who knew what they were doing.


Cheers


Andrew  :wink:

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I am feeling that 'circles' are actually being formed depending on the types of communications devices we are using. We seem to be drawn to different ways of communications; it has been my feeling to draw from this energy as it applies to you.

Afterall, the entities on the other side need our support to be there; oh I read where if you 'acknowledge' spiritual contact you are giving the entity power.

I dont know the intent of this, and whether care needs to be taken; I think everyone involved know how much they can handle.

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With ya on the 'circles' thoughts. Naturally and with exposure of different peoples interests and spiritual beliefs, we are all being drawn into little pools of sharing. Keith's forum here displays a mixture of a similar theme and the aims of course are shared by all, reliable spirit contact.
The speed of rotation and investigative routing appears to be increasing...people seem to be honing areas of beliefs and experimentation, while staying open to advice, helping others and extending knowledge. Bit of a tornado warning though, if someone has a eureka moment hehe a tornado of the better type.
I don't mind this thread starting up again after quite the break in correspondence on it, seems a good pointer and refresh route. Hopefully Keith doesn't mind either ;)

The purple that Frank mentions is something self noted. How many times do you see spiritual types wearing purple ! Mystics, male and female seem to display purple in clothing and goods they own, or even house wall colour.
Purple is a spiritual colour, no problem there and relates to auric interpretation (which I was lucky enough to witness for a couple of months first hand in about 2002). What they are saying, is that Frank is able to 'see' in the mystical way and has an ability to balance sense with emotion. His electronics are the sense or intellect, the emotions come from the wishes to gain spirit contact and to further the field.
The phrase 'going through a purple patch' is related.


I think the circle needs some clarification...is it like minded people collecting a knowledge base or those literally meditating together ? I apologise for my lack of understanding :)

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I think your last question answers it (!); it's both I am sure.

 

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Allo,

I feel a circle is "people of like mind working together towards a common goal."

and a Bridge would be the physical manifestation, or product of their efforts in regards to ITC.

Keith

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Andrew I can honestly say I have worked with AP for about 35 years, and realistically for about a good 20 years off and on; and during those years I have found that different times of year seem to work better; or if I am mentally ready to remember and go OOB.

I am kind of busy at the moment but I will search the forum here and find a good place to talk about AP; there are some different forms of it, and manifesting it an be done in different ways.

In the last month or so I have been getting stronger in tune with my physical and mental bodies and AP; the last one(s) were of earthquakes; before they happened.

This is showing me that my current destiny of becoming closer to the Earth seems to be working; to a point probly!

Many of us may form outside groups from here so as not to create much conflict of interest. IE the astral worlds may or may not have connections to EVP/ITC; most would assume it might; like mediumship etc; everything has connections.

Here seem to be a nice group(s) of like-minded people getting messages in many different forms; and when these messages start to relate to each other and ourselves, the doors will open.

Hopefully people are supportive of each other and the circles as it is put here seem a nice calm way of getting that support.

I wouldnt mind being part of a group or circle, and at some point I may need to when my projects start to succeed; I have to put my energies where they are the strongest though, and so far for me AP hasnt been linking well for me.

Funny thing is most of my AP's had me back in school learning basic and advanced physics in some cases; figures; I had an alien reptillian in one class; he gave me a funny look; I guess I wasnt surprised.

Well I hope to read more of different circles here.

Regarding mediumship per se; I need to reserve my own opinion of them as I have not had the mediumship experience, however I have a good understanding of how genuine mediums work; it is the dividing line between real and fake mediums that is hard to tell.

Many attempt to debunk what seem like fake mediums; how wrong they are because they dont have that spiritual awareness as I have; but that has taken several years for me to develop only because I am slower and had to learn it (the awareness that is); as it came mostly from my AP experiences.

As I knew what AP finally was, then I could study clairvoyance etc and add to my AP powers.

Maybe one can be in two main circles: one for their main focus (such as medium, AP'er, etc), then the other for a group of 1-2-3 of each type of person; like the group in 'The Others' movie.

I could talk forever...!

So many roads all leading to the source; or even sources; who knows.

We all have certain destiny's that I am sure of; I have been superstitious of destiny all my life; and now if has come to me and is so obvious as not to avoid it; in fact I am probly obligated to seek it out.

It is unfortunate that many of us dont have that destiny feel about themselves; then again it may take many years, and many lifetimes (!?!), for one's destiny to become known to them; maybe a medium can help in that area (!); kind of a pun intended; but how true can this be (!); and maybe it might even take that to happen, in order for one to find their destiny road.

MrZeta

 

 

 

 

 

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Some great points about awareness there, though I was unsure of the reptillian alien :blink:
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Seeking and finding seem to run through many areas of psychic growth, once the seeking turns to finding, growth rapidly speeds up. That switch is not a conscious plan and time is not the important thing, in my opinion, readyness and understanding that we will develop are.
Well, i'm not going to preach anything as I don't have that way or need, but it's also my opinion that when the awareness of self comes forward as a lead on who we really are inside, connections develop naturally in ways we formerly desperately strived for !

Circles, I think, become as easy to become a part of as any other area of life that is desired. Hard work, research and a good basis often form a respect from others. Sure, we can seek similar people almost like a job interviewers list, but in the end, after any process, the rewarding experiences seem to lead from the quirky connections. I guess the right analogy would be finding a life partner. Try too hard and Mr/Miss Right remains elusive, practically give up the search and there they are!
I believe that the old thought of being yourself opens up much more than trying to be someone else. Circles of like minded people can only be like minded from who they truly are inside.

Sometimes a destiny is planned and worked toward, but a destiny is the end result and the path taken may only make sense at the end.
Short of sounding like some kind of Guru lol, my point is that direction comes from within and does indeed depend on what kind of person you are. A seeker or an accepter. Some people are builders, other people use what is built :smile:

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Greetings all,
 
 
I can see if one has a low fear factor or high spiritual beliefs,  where some of the voices / phrases can be very unnerving.  Especially when they are in that quintessential low creepy voice we are accustomed to hearing on TV and in the movies.
 
I get them frequently in the sessions we do here at the house.  Since I don’t have a religious bone in my body,  I make a general statement to this end and the overtures do in fact stop for a while until someone new comes along trying to get a rise out of me.
 
What I get a kick out of are the tricksters.  I don’t know how they come through for you…..but for me they all seem to be at a higher pitch vocal frequency. 
 
I have indulged them in the past to see how creative they can be.  One time,  while I was researching a person who claimed to be in a coma,  the tricksters came through in grand form with an ominous prediction that an asteroid was going to strike the moon.
 
They gave specific dates, times,  location of impacts and even a logical sequence of events on how it would take a week and a half for the debris to make it from the moon to the earth.  Not only did they say that the Atlantic coast from North to South Carolina would be destroyed,  they framed it with a sentence that I myself could never have thought of.  They said:  I hope they have raincoats because it’s going to be raining blood.
 
As the time drew near,  the prediction changed, that now….a comet had bumped into the asteroid and on a certain date at a certain time,  the comet was going to come through…. taking out the international space station and upon entering the atmosphere,  pieces would break off and one would hit the town we live in.  They warned us to get out of town and head north towards the grand canyon area.
 
Yeah…right.
 
The day came and passed and in an EVP session that night I asked what happened.  Their response was:  “we were just messing with ya”
 
Later in that same session I heard two people come through also claiming to be in a coma.  One in San-Francisco and one in LA.  It was the exact same voice both times. 
 
Nice try.
 
 
Aside from the meaningful contacts we’ve made,  I have actually grown fond of one heckler in particular.
 
When he first started coming through he would spout the usual  F  words and phrases.  When it was obvious I was ignoring him,  he started calling me a “Stupid Fag Mexican”
 
When I heard this in the recording,  I did a special session aimed at him.  I told him that I was not a Mexican but rather an American Indian. 
 
He now calls me:   Kemo Sabe
 
I also said that if he was going to continue to plague me with his presence,  the least he could do is come up with better lines than F you and F this and that.  And he did.  He started coming through with well placed – well timed zingers.
 
Not long ago he stated he was going to Vegas for a while and indeed….for about a month and a half I heard not one peep out of him.  Then one day while reviewing a recorded session….BAM….there he was…announcing his presence with authority.
 
I’m kinda glad he’s back.  I was starting to miss him.
 
Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
 
 
And for OldFrank……the purple comment might be a compliment.  In the old days,  Purple was only worn by royalty.
 
 
On the subject of fear….quoting an unremembered source…Fear is nothing more than:
 
F alse
E vidence
A ppearing
R eal
 
 
Peace,
Ron

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This is an interesting thread, has anyone ever correlated the negative experiences with the mood they are in when they use EVP? Since everyone here believes in spirit has anyone considered a meditative prayer before starting the session? I am not advocating for any religion, more like "setting the connection" with what I have come to call the "super-conscience". I believe what we call our version of god is moot, I believe god has more than a few phone lines in...

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Sounds as though it's best to wait till I'm back to full health before commencing these experiments. I'm recovering from a broken ankle, and physical injury affects one's mental and spiritual outlook as well.

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