Author | Post |
---|
lance
Moderator
|
Hello all..
Last week I purchased an old vavle radio set (All in working order) from the 1950tys, to expreiment with DRV.. Its a beautifull radio... It has LW,MW, Trawler band and Shortwave band... I am working with SW and TB...
I find I am not getting enough white noise coming through on the shortwave, but am on the TB...
I'll keep you all posted on how I get on...
Take care, Lance.
Heres a quick snap of the radio...
Attached Image (viewed 1006 times):
Last edited on Jul 8th, 2012 05:41 PM by lance |
ArizonaEvp
Super Moderator
|
Hi Lance,
That's a nice looking radio.
I haven't heard the term Trawler Band since I was in the Navy.
You could try using a longer antenna wire for shortwave to bring in some additional noise.
Good Luck,
Ron
|
lance
Moderator
|
Hey Ron...
Thanks for your reply...
At the moment it only has an internal aerial, do you think I could get more noise using an external aerial, would that help?
Take care, Lance..
|
ArizonaEvp
Super Moderator
|
lance wrote: Hey Ron...
Thanks for your reply...
At the moment it only has an internal aerial, do you think I could get more noise using an external aerial, would that help?
Take care, Lance..
Hi Lance,
If your radio has an input for an external antenna then it should work.
If there is no input, I would not go monkeying around with the inside.
How is the static on long wave?
Maybe I'll see if Dan can chime in on this. He's a lot more familiar with old short wave radios than I am.
Ron
|
lance
Moderator
|
Thanks Ron..
Yes it has an input on the back of the radio for a external aerial, I wonder if I could find one on Ebay...
Take care, Lance.
|
You have chosen to ignore NYevp. click Here to view this post |
---|
Posted: Jul 11th, 2012 11:05 AM |
|
6th Post |
NYevp
Guest
Joined: | |
Location: | |
Posts: | |
Status: |
Offline
|
|
Hello Lance,
A very nice vintage radio indeed. The trawler band I would assume is a ship to shore band that was popular from that era. Take a look at the back of the radio are there any screws that you might be able to connect an external antenna ?. Maybe its possible to take a picture of the rear of the radio ? I would not go inside the radio if you are not comfortable.
These screws will be the same type of arrangement that was used on pre cable era television sets for an antenna. If so all you would need at first is a length of two strand speaker wire that extends ten to twenty feet. This will pull in more signal and should generate the desired white noise.
You might want to try the LW band. the frequencies are between 153 & 519 khz. There should be white noise there. Another frequency that you might try is around 1500 khz on the MW band which is where Jurgenson experimented. And finally between 14.000 & 15.000 mhz which is between the 21 & 19 meter bands.
Good Luck and Best Regards,
Dan
Last edited on Jul 11th, 2012 12:17 PM by
|
|
lance
Moderator
|
Hi Dan, thanks for your reply.
Here is a pic of the back of the radio, I feel the aerial input is the second socket.....
Attached Image (viewed 1044 times):
|
You have chosen to ignore NYevp. click Here to view this post |
---|
Posted: Jul 11th, 2012 12:14 PM |
|
8th Post |
NYevp
Guest
Joined: | |
Location: | |
Posts: | |
Status: |
Offline
|
|
Seems to be Lance.
|
|
ArizonaEvp
Super Moderator
|
Hello Lance
You got a radio by Pye!!!
In a way....it's like having a piece of history.
It was Pye that was commissioned to conduct experiments and try to explain the EVP phenomenon back in the 1970's.
Attached Image (viewed 949 times):
|
ArizonaEvp
Super Moderator
|
Attached Image (viewed 887 times):
|
ArizonaEvp
Super Moderator
|
Attached Image (viewed 940 times):
|
ArizonaEvp
Super Moderator
|
Synchronicity being what it is.............
I got a good feeling about this Lance.
Cheers,
Ron
|
You have chosen to ignore NYevp. click Here to view this post |
---|
NYevp
Guest
Joined: | |
Location: | |
Posts: | |
Status: |
Offline
|
|
Lance,
This seems to me like you were chosen to aquire this radio.......a predetermined destiny thing. I cannot think of a more deserving new owner.
It never ceases to amaze me how things always seem to fall into the proper place of order.
Regards,
Dan
|
|
lance
Moderator
|
Wow!! Thanks Ron and Dan, Hopefully I will have some good results, that's truley amazing about Pye conducting the Experiements back in the 70tys... Amazing!!
Forgot to ask... I have got the two strand speaker wire, do I bear the wires back and place them into the holes at the back???
Take care, Lance..
|
You have chosen to ignore NYevp. click Here to view this post |
---|
NYevp
Guest
Joined: | |
Location: | |
Posts: | |
Status: |
Offline
|
|
Lance,
Are these 1/8" mini jack "holes" or are they threaded with screws ? If it is a jack, go to a local Radio Shack store.....I am not sure if they are in the Wales area and have them set up an antenna wire to a male mini plug........just mention that you are to trying to set up a long wire antenna for a shortwave radio .
Tally-Ho
Dan
|
|
lance
Moderator
|
Hey thanks Guys for all your help...
I just got onto the guy who I bought it off and he has got an external aerial for the radio, so he is sending it out in the post...
I'll keep you all informed on my progress...
Take care, Lance.
|
Keith Clark
Administrator
|
Can't wait to hear Lance...any chance you can leave the radio on permanently for spirit to adjust to it?
I tried several old valve radios, but various parts were broken, would break, etc. I looked at the inside of them and couldn't believe my eyes - everything appeared to be hand-soldered, I wouldn't go near it! A labryinth of wires.
This I know: that there are many people in spirit dying to come through radios and not enough experimenters willing to work with them (sweep tuning aside). It may vary per person, I have had more success with regular radio (non-augmented by power, electricity in the air) in the AM band and below. The lower and longer the wave, the easier it seems to be for them to be able to infringe upon it. Of course, we know that most of the pioneers did everything from AM to shortwave, etc. so of course it is a case by case basis. I base my opinion on the years of working with it, personally I prefer lower frequencies.
Of course, right now I am not experimenting with radio at all!
Best of luck my friend, I look forward to hearing some samples. The best part of radio work is you can just leave it there and listen in when you want, if you shoot for live only...and still continue your work with images, which you are skilled at.
...and one day we will combine the two! images and sound.
Cheers,
Keith
|
lance
Moderator
|
Hey thanks Keith, I will keep you posted...!
Take care, Lance..
|
lance
Moderator
|
Hello all.
I have been experiemnting with the radio only on shortwave at the moment, well tonight I heard possible what Marcello Bacci talks of as the 'whirlwind vortex' just before communication takes place...I have attached the file for you to hear... then it all went silent and I couldn't get any white noise...
The attached sound came in between 8MHZ
I will keep trying on this frequency and band to see if communication does take place.
Take care, Lance..
vortex sound
|
Jan
Member
|
A note of caution for anyone experimenting with short wave radio as a source of direct voice communications: if you are not used to listening to the types of signals on short wave, beware that there are all sorts of odd noises to be heard. At the website below you can listen to many of the odd noises. Most are generated by the military for secure communications, but some are beacons, radar, etc.
http://www.brogers.dsl.pipex.com/page3.html
http://www.brogers.dsl.pipex.com/enigma2000/samples05.html
A basic short wave radio will not resolve various types of voice communications, but a 'voice' seems to be there somewhere in the noise.
With a wire aerial stung about indoors, you are also likely to pick up interference from all sorts of electronic domestic appliances, even when switched to 'standby'.
Lance, good luck with your experiments, but don't jump to too many conclusions.
Jan
|
lance
Moderator
|
Hi Jan.
Thank you for your post..
Marcello Bacci and Anabela Cardoso both recommend shortwave for communication to the other world. I am also tunning to white noise with no voice emisions comming through..
Do you known if Trawler Band is a shortwave band, as I have alot of white noise on this band and it does appear that no one uses it anymore...?
Take care, Lance.
|
Jan
Member
|
Hi Lance,
Trawler band is about 1.6 MHz to 3.3 MHz, i.e. between the top end of medium wave and the very bottom end of short wave. As you say, it's not much used by trawlers now. That set looks like it's British from mid 1950s. In those days trawlers chatted to each other using AM (amplitude modulation) transmissions, like any radio stations on medium wave (the AM band). Any shipping or coast stations using those frequencies now use SSB (single sideband) which cannot be resolved by your receiver, although it does sound a bit Donald-Duck like. I have met people who were convinced these sounds are from the spirit world. It seems odd to me that anyone should think "we don't know what these noises are so they must come from beyond the grave". But they got great comfort from that belief.
If your set is working then by now you'll have noticed that many of the broadcast stations (BBC World Service, Radio China International, etc.) cluster around the 49 metre band, 41mb, 19 mb. etc, with all kinds of strange noises in between, but the strength and dial locations vary throughout the day.
If you want to generate noise as a background to recording, then tune to any part of the dial where no stations can be heard. I don't think there should be anything special about any part of the short wave band. In fact if you just pull out the aerial and turn up the volume, the set's own internally generated noise should be sufficient. If you have mediumistic abilities, I doubt it matters how the noise source is generated.
Good luck,
JanLast edited on Aug 2nd, 2012 02:15 PM by Jan |