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 Posted: Jul 16th, 2010 07:43 AM
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ArizonaEvp



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Old GUy wrote:

Old Guy as in crochety old man. Before I forget, LORD we miss AZ!!! My Mrs. is third gen Tucsonan. I've lived in the southwest my entire life. Miss it, miss it, MISS IT!

Mice? Bats? Wrong end of the spectrum. Reverse the polarity. :biggrin:

IMO - There are two problems with EVPs. One relates to the other. Lack of documentation and RFI. To provide that pesky incontrovertible proof thing, you have to demonstrate that it's *not* a broadcast radio signal. Now it starts to look like a SETI project. Virtually all recorders are susceptible to RFI, unless specifically shielded to prevent it. I know of no such recorder that one can purchase. If I had a dollar for every breadboard circuit I biult on the bench that picked up radio - I'd have a dollar for every breadboard circuit I built on the bench.

I have recordings - of trucks, thunder, cars driven by future hearing-impaired kids, ... I *thought* I had recorded the quake in Haiti, but decided the timing was too far off. Then there was Chile at 8.8 - nothing. Oaxaca - 6.2 and still nothing. I need an adjustable subsonic source. Like a whale, elephant, giraffe, or ... a US Navy submarine!

I printed that PDF when I first ran across it. That was before Panasonic mixed up their product line. It's still a good refernce so I still have it on the wall. Jeff Johnson is a pioneer in subsonics. Good reading here: http://www.ees.nmt.edu/johnson_j/index.html


If you're there or ever get there, give my regards to "The Old Pueblo." We'll be back. Someday...




I was born in Tempe when the city was a puppy.  Moved to the Prescott area from Tucson about 12 years ago.  Monsoons are here.  Yesterday it was 105 in the shade and 65% humidity with no relief in sight.  Reminds me of when I was on Guam in the Navy….working the flight line and praying for rain.

Ya know;  the skeptics only have 2 arguments against EVP….which really isn’t bad if you think about it.  They are Apophenia / Pareidolia & Cross Modulation.

http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/electronic_voice_phenomena_voices_of_the_dead/

http://www.skepdic.com/evp.html


Since I have no interest in fame or fortune,  I don’t need to sit inside 10 Faraday cages in order to disprove cross modulation.  (although I would like to set up my equipment in an anechoic chamber sometime)

Reducing the chances of cross modulation is pretty easy.  

For example,  I make up a word….like  PolyRhythmic  and print it out on paper.  I hold up the paper and ask if anyone can tell me what the word is.  After allowing for an appropriate response time,  I announce what the word is so that it is in the recording.  I hear  polyrhythmic  in the response section of the recording.

I hold up a picture of my grandchild and ask for their first – middle & last name.

I go to the pantry – or closet and grab an item (can of whatever….hot glue gun) hold it up and ask what the item is.

So far so good.



As far as your recordings…..yes please….I’d like to hear one or two.

Something recent would be perfect.  If you PM me I’ll send you my email address which would be good for a file size up to about 6 – 8 meg. 

For a larger file….   http://www.box.net/   can do up to 25 meg for free.


Regards,
Ron

Last edited on Jul 16th, 2010 09:26 AM by ArizonaEvp