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For those of you who have more questions about this material - such as where it came from, what is it to be used for, why is is posted, what the rules are etc.....

Please read the following email message between Robert and I. It will provide answers to these questions.

Keith

**************Email message follows*************

 

 

."...In accordance with Title 17, U.S.C.. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. (It is free and is distributed by the compiler at no cost to the receiver.  Robert Felix has no affiliation whatsoever with the originators of these cited articles, nor has Robert Felix been endorsed or sponsored by the originators of any materials cited in this Essay...". )    





 MY REPLY (Robert's) IN BOLD LETTERS INTERSPERSED IN  THE TEXT:

RE: EVP_Electronic Voices Phenonena Experiments‏

From: Keith Clark ([email protected] )

Sent: Sun 9/09/07 11:02 PM

Reply-to: [email protected]

To: [email protected]




Hi Robert,

 Thank you for the link. There's quite a wealth of information there! I will add it to the website soon -  I'm currently in the process of revising the site.

 May I ask some questions first concerning this download? Are you the individual that has compiled all of this material? And, if I'm not mistaken – this can be freely distributed in its entire whole form? YES, IT CAN BE. Does someone retain written permission from all of these individuals who authored the work? No doubt, I find the amount of information quite staggering, and know it will be of interest to many people. I would, however, request some type of assurance concerning copyrights, etc.  SEE PARAGRAPH TO FOLLOW:

PUT THE ABOVE DISCLAIMER IN THE TEXT POSTED AT THE END OF EACH TEXT POSTED,SAYING IT WAS A CONTRIBUTION: "...In accordance with Title 17, U.S.C.. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. (It is free and is distributed by the compiler at no cost to the receiver.  Robert Felix has no affiliation whatsoever with the originators of these cited articles, nor has Robert Felix been endorsed or sponsered by the originators of any materials cited in this Essay...". )   YOU CAN SAY THIS AT THE END OF EACH ARTICLE, AND ATTRIBUTE ITS POSTING TO ME, ROBERT FELIX.  

Pardon me for asking, but I would also like to know more information about you and the group that you refer to in the email. Is it a collective collaboration between various individuals of researchers, scientists, etc? Speaking frankly, who is "us"?  YES, IT IS.  SOME, SUCH AS MYSELF ARE IN THE PHYSICAL, SOME ARE NOT.  THE ENTIRE OBJECTIVE IS TO GET THIS INFORMATION INTO THE HANDS OF ITC EXPERIMENTERS WHO WILL LOOK AT IT, BUILD IT, AND TRY IT. OF SPECIAL INTEREST IS THE MATERIAL ON THE 'NEUROPHONE'-RADIOPHONIC HEARING COULD BE A SOLUTION TO MANY PROBLEMS PERCEIVING EVP VOICE MESSAGES; AND IT CAN ALSO HELP THE PHYSICALLY DEAF.  WHAT IF AN ENGINEER OR TECHNICIAN WHO IS NOW DEAF BUT ONCE HAD NORMAL HEARING GETS THEIR HANDS ON IT AND SUCCEEDS IN RESTORING 'THEIR' HEARING TO A RELATIVELY NORMAL STATE?   IF THEY TELL THEIR FRIENDS AND THE MESSAGE SPREADS IN THE DEAF COMMUNITY, WE HAVE DONE A GREAT 'HUMANITARIAN' ACT.  WOULD A DEAF INDIVIDUAL WHO 'HEARD' USING A NEUROPHONE THEY BUILT BECOME INTERESTED IN ITC  OR EVP VOICES RECEPTION WORK AND BE ABLE TO 'HEAR' EVP USING THE NEUROPHONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH MICROPHONE METHOD, RADIO METHOD, OR OTHER "KNOWN" METHODS OF RECEIVEING EVP DISCUSSED ON YOUR AND OTHER WEBSITES?   COULD THIS PERSON OVERCOME THEIR HANDICAP OF DEAFNESS AND BECOME ONE OF THE GREATIST  'PHYSICAL 'SPIRIT MEDIUMS OF THE 21ST CENTURY, AS DD HOME WAS IN  THE VICTORIAN ENGLISH SOCIETY OF THE19TH CENTURY?  I HAVE CONSTRUCTED AND REDUCED TO PRACTICE THIS 'NEUROPHONE' UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE LATE DR. PUHARICH.   ALL TECHNICAL DETAILS FOR ITS CONSTRUCTION ARE GIVEN IN THE DOWNLOAD.

 

Please understand that my inquiries are simply of a desire to know more, and to be sure that what I publish on the website is appropriate. As far as the information, I consider it to be very valuable and immense – something I would be happy to help pass along to the world.  Has the link for this download been reproduced elsewhere by other ITC websites?? WE HAVE GIVEN IT TO OTHER WEBSITES, SOW A SEED, AS IT WERE.  WHAT THEY WILL DO WITH IT IS UP TO THEM.  AS DR. RAUDIVE WAS TOLD DECADES AGO IN HIS BOOK 'BREAKTHROUGH',  IN RESPONSE TO HIS QUESTION OF 'HOW' THE QUALITY OF THE EVP VOICE RECEPTION/PERCEPTION CAN BE IMPROVED: 'The information will be given expression through the technicians'.  UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF SPIRIT, IT HAS BEEN FOR ME TO COLLECT AND COLLATE THIS DIVERSE INFORMATION, AND GIVE IT FREELY TO OTHER 'TECHNICIANS' WHO CAN TO FURTHER DEVELOP IT.   AGAIN AS DR. RAUDIVE WAS TOLD: 'life is but a moment'-WE SHARE BECAUSE IN MY LIFE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PHYSICAL TIME TO DO JUSTICE TO ALL THESE EXPERIMENTS.   BEING ON THE FRONTIER OF THINGS, ONE MUST SHARE WHAT IS GIVEN AND SEEN WITH OTHERS OF A LIKE MIND; OR ELSE IT WILL DIE WITH YOU IN THE SOCIAL CONSENSUS REALITY THE VOICES CALLED 'SLEEP' IN DR. RAUDIVE'S BOOK BREAKTHROUGH.   WHILE YOU WORK ON YOUR WEBSITE, PLEASE KEEP THE POSTING WITH THE VALID DOWNLOAD ADDRESSES IN BOX.NET UP ON IT WITH YOUR FAVOURABLE COMMENTARY.    IF YOU SEE FIT TO POST ANY OF THE MATERIAL ON THE  CITED BOX.NET DOWNLOAD FOR DIRECT DOWNLOAD ON YOUR ITC WEBSITE, WE WELCOME YOU TO DO THIS.   ANY AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS IN YOUR CIRCLE?  EXPERIMENTS WITH THE RODGERS UNDERGROUND WIRELESS SYSTEM WOULD BE PARTICULARLY FASCINATING AND INFORMATIVE.  IT WAS ENDORSED BY DR. TESLA, WHO IS RECOGNISED BY THE US SUPREME COURT-NOT MARCONI-AS THE INVENTOR OF AM RADIO.  SINCE WE ARE USING 'NON HERTZIAN' RADIATION-A "GROUND WAVE" HERE, WOULD EXPERIMENTING WITH A RODGERS SUB SURFACE SYSTEM IN THE AMATEUR BANDS BELOW TEN METERS YIELD EVP OF SUPERIOR QUALITY AND DURATION, SINCE WE ARE USING 'NON HERTZIAN' RADIATION-AS ALEC MACRAE OF SCOTLAND AND DR. H. BENDER CONCLUSIVELY 'PROVED' THEY DO BY LISTENING IN AN ACCOUSTICALLY AND ELECTROMAGNETICALLY SHIELDED ROOM?  BY THE 'CONVENTIONAL' GOSPEL, THEY SHOULD HAVE RECIEVED NOTHING.    YET SPIRIT MANIFESTED, AND ALEC MACRAE RECORDED EVP IN SUCH AN INSULATED ROOM AT A LABORATORY IN CALIFORNIA SEVERAL YEARS AGO.    THIS IS A 'SOCRATIC' QUESTION WE WOULD LIKE TO PASS ON TO OUR FELLOW EXPERIMENTERS THE 'TECHNICIANS' , THOSE IN SPIRIT SPOKE OF IN RESPONSE TO DR. RAUDIVE'S QUESTION A LIFETIME AGO.    CONCERNING THE 'RODGERS' UNDERGROUND WIRELESS SYSTGEM: IF IT 'WORKS' AS CLAIMED, HOW COME IT IS FORGOTTEN AND NO ONE USES IT?   IS THIS A VERY PHYSICAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT THOSE IN SPIRIT CALLED 'SLEEP'= THE "SOCIAL CONSENSUS REALITY?  I GIVE YOU A 'SIMPLE' EXPERIMENT: GET A 'GOOD' PORTABLE BATTERY POWERED SHORTWAVE(1800KHZ TO 28MEGAHERTZ) RADIO WITH AM,SSB, CW. MADE FOR HAM RADIO OPERATORS.   IT MUST HAVE AN ANTENNA  AND GROUND LEAD TERMINAL ON THE BACK OF THE CASE, AND ANY 'INTERNAL' LOOPSTICK ANTENNA MUST BE ABLE TO BE DISCONNECTED.  IN THE 'HIGH QUALITY' SETS I HAVE FOUND THE INTERNAL 'LOOPSTICK' ANTENNA-IF ANY-IS CONNECTED WITH A SHORT WIRE AND LUG  COMING OUTSIDE THE BACK OF THE CASE  NEXT TO THE "ANTENNA" TERMINAL, ENABLING THE OWNER OF THE SET TO DISCONNECT THE INTERNAL LOOPSTICK AND USE WHATEVER ANTENNA THEY DESIRE CONNECTED TO THE  'ANTENNA' SCREW LEAD TERMINAL IN THE BACK OF THE SET... DISCONNECT THE INTERNAL LOOPSTICK ANTENNA, SO YOU JUST HAVE THE ANTENNA TERMINAL.  NEXT, TAKE A BRASS WELDING ROD  OF AT LEAST 3/16 INCH DIAMETER.  SHARPEN ONE END AND SILVER SOLDER OR WELD A PIECE OF 5/8 INCH OR LARGER IN DIAMETER BRASS PIPE CROSSWISE ON THE OTHER END TO ACT AS A HANDLE, IT SHOULD BE @ 4 OR FIVE INCHES LONG AND THE HOLE THROUGH THE CENTRE OF  THIS  PIPE 'FITS' THE WELDING ROD AND THE ROD  IS SILVER SOLDERED/WELDED TO IT.  THIS IS A PHYSICALLY SECURE SOLDERING CONNECTION, SINCE WE ARE GOING TO POUND THIS FORMER  WELDING ROD  TO  ITS SHARP OTHER END INTO THE GROUND USING A HAMMER ON THE TOP BRASS PIPE CROSSPIECE WE JUST DESCRIBED.  THE BRASS  PIPE CROSS PIECE  WITH A HOLE IN THE CENTRE WITH THE WELDING ROD  COMIJNG THROUGH THIS HOLE  AT 90 DEGREE ANGLE TO THE BRASS PIPE AND SOLDERED TO IT SERVES AS A WAY TO PULL THIS WELDING ROD OUT OF THE GROUND WITH YOUR HAND -IT IS NOT PERMANENTLY IN ONE PLACE.   ATTACHED TO THE TOP OF THE ROD NEAR THE BRASS PIPE CROSS PIECE, IS SILVER SOLDERED HEAVY AWG GUAGE 6 OR 8 BELL WIRE-A THREE OR FOUR INCH PIECE.  FROM THE END OF THIS PIECE OF BELL WIRE, WE NOW SOLDER 'REGULAR' INSULATED FLEXIBLE  PIECE 16 OR 18 AWG GUAGE STANDARD ELECTRONIC CIRUIT WIRE OF @ 2-3 FEET LONG.   THE PIECE OF HEAVY GUAGE WIRE SOLDERED TO THE WELDING ROD ACTS AS A 'BRIDGE' , BECAUSE REGULAR WIRE COULD NOT TAKE THE HEAT TO SOLDER IT TO THE BRASS WELDING ROD-IT WOULD SMOKE AND VAPOURISE.  SO, THE END OF THIS 'REGULAR' WIRE GOES TO A SCREW TERMINAL LUG, WHICH IS SOLDERED TO IT.  POUND THE BRASS ROD WITH ITS CROSS PIECE INTO THE GROUND.  IF YOU NOTICE GREENERY, DO IT WEHRE THE GREENERY APPEARS PARTICULARLY DENSE,LUSH AND FERTILE TO THE EYE-SOME AREAS OF GROWING THINGS APPEAR SLIGHTLY "GREENER" THAN THOSE SURROUNDING THEM.  NEXT TO THE POUNDED IN ROD, PUT A PIECE OF THICK DRY WOOD LARGE ENOUGH TO COMFORTABLY PHYSICALLY POSITION YOUR PORTABLE, BATTERY POWERED SHORT WAVE RADIO ON.  THIS IS TO INSULATE IT ELECTRICALLY COMPLETELY FROM CONTACT WITH THE EARTH, OR GROUND.   THEN  PUT THE SCREW LUG OR TERMINAL ON THE OTHER END OF THE WIRE ATTACHED TO THE BRASS ROD WHICH IS NOW POUNDED INTO THE EARTH NEXT TO THE SHORT WAVE BATTERY RADIO RESTING ON ITS WOOD BOARD TO YOUR 'ANTENNA' TERMINAL.    LEAVE THE GROUND TERMINAL ON THE SHORT WAVE SET 'FLOATING', DO NOT ATTACH ANYTHING TO IT!  S  ET THE SHORT WAVE SET TO, LET US SAY, 80  OR 40 METER AMATEUR OR SHIP TO SHORE MARINE BAND  FOR AM OR SSB AND TURN IT ON.  YOU WILL FIND IT WORKS, AND WORKS FAR 'BETTER' THAN WITH A CONVENTIONAL "WIRE HERTZIAN AERIAL".  FOR AN EXPERIMENTAL 'CONTROL' ATTACH A PIECE OF REGULAR FLEXIBLE WIRE IDENTICAL TO THE PIECE OF WIRE THAT CONNECTS OUR 'GROUND RADIO ANTENA' TO THE WELDING ROD AT ANOTHER TIME TO THE ANTENNA TERMINAL OF THE SHORTWAVE SET SET UP AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. NOTICE THE VAST DIFFERENCE IN SENSITIVITY OR RECEPTION OBTAINED.  WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WITH A 2 OR THREE FOOT WIRE ANTENNA?  IF YOU NOTICE WHAT I HAVE NOTICED IN THIS CASE-WHY IS THE DIFFERENCE?   WHY HAS OUR CIVILISATION NOT MADE USE OF 'GROUND WAVE' RADIO?     TESLA ALSO NOTICED THAT HEAVISIDE LAYER ATMOSPHERIC LAYER EFFECTS ON SHORTWAVE RECEPTION KNOWN TO EVERY HAM RADIO OPERATOR-SOME BANDS UP IN DAYTIME, 'DOWN' AT NIGHT OR VICE VERSA ARE NOT  PRESENT IN GROUND WAVE RADIO RECEPTION. THE RECEPTION IS ALSO 'CLEANER'-FREE OF THE HISS, CRACKLES, AND POPS EXPECTED ON THE SHORTWAVE BANDS...  PASS THIS ON TO YOU-HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME TO FOLLOW UP ON DOCTOR TESLA'S OBSERVATIONS HERE.  PERHAPS YOU OR ANOTHER TECHNICIAN IN YOUR CIRCLE CAN DO SO.  ONE INTERESTING THING, WHICH I HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME YET TO DO IS TO TAKE THIS ABOVE ARRANGEMENT AND POUND OUR 'GROUND RADIO ANTENNA OR NON HERTZIAN WAVE ANTENNA' INTO VARIOUS DIFFERENT PHYSICAL LOCATIONS IN THE GROUND AND ENDEAVOUR TO NOTICE IF THERE ARE ANY DIFFERENCES IN RECEPTION.  A QUOTED NOTATION I READ IN PASSING OF  THE ALLEGED INVENTOR OF RADIO GUGLEIMO MARCONI SAID THAT THIS IS THE CASE... MARCONI WAS AWARE OF 'GROUND RADIO', YET "WHY" DID HE NOT PURSUE IT FURTHER?  APPARENTLY BECAUSE HE FELT ANXIETY IT CONTRADICTED THE ACCEPTED THEORIES OF THE SCIENCE OF HIS TODAY, WHICH IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY.    IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE HERE THAT SCIENTIFIC 'THEORIES' HAVE THE SAME BLIND SHEEP FOLLOWING AMONG MANY AS 'SOCIAL CONVENTIONS' AMONG THE MASS PUBLIC.  IS THIS NOT A SMALL PART OF WHAT THE VOICES OF ETERNITY(EVP) CALLED "SLEEP" IN ANSWERS TO DR. RAUDIVE'S QUESTIONS?  IN A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, WHY WERE TOY GOLD WHEELED CARTS THAT MOVED AND WORKED FOUND IN THE TOMB OF A NATIVE AMERICAN CHILD IN CENTRAL AMERICA-BUT THE adult  INDIANS DID NOT USE THE WHEEL ON THEIR EXCELLENTG ROAD SYSTEM WHICH RUNS THE LENGTH OF CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA AND IS STILL IN USE TODAY?   ONE ANTHROPOLOGIST OBSERVED OR HYPOTHESIZED THAT : THE INDIANS WORSHIPED  THE SUN AS 'GOD'.   SINCE THE SUN WAS ROUND IN SHAPE AND THE WHEEL WAS ALSO, THE PRIESTS THOUGHT A WHEELED CART WAS BLASPHEMOUS, SINCE YOU WERE DRAGGING THE WHEEL, WHICH WAS "ROUND' IN SHAPE LIKE 'GOD' THROUGH THE DIRT... IF THE ANTHROPOLOGISTS' PROJECTION OF THE WAY OF THINKING OF THE ANCIENT SOUTH AMERICAN INDIANS IS 'TRUE' IS THIS NOT IN RETEROSPECT AN EXCELLENT HISTORICAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE VOICES CALLED 'SLEEP'?   TODAY, WE WOULD CONSIDER SUCH 'THEOLOGY' LAUGHABLE...WILL  OUR DESCENDENTS CONSIDER MANY OF THE GOES WITHOUT THINKING - THE SOCIAL AND THEORETICAL CONVENTIONS OF OUR PRESENT SOCIETY THE SAME WAY?   WHEN DOES A 'THEORY'-A 'PROVISIONAL HYPOTHESIS' BECOME AN ARTICLE OF FAITH OR CREED, THAT IS UNQUESTIONINGLY ACCEPTED BY THE LEADERS AND THE MASSES THAT FOLLOW THEM?  I WAS TOLD IN SCHOOL THAT FOR EVERY 100 WATS OF TRANSMITTER OUTPUT, FIFTY GO INTO THE HERTZIAN WIERE ANTENNA AND FIFTY GO INTO THE GROUND-DISPERSED AS HEAT...  YET BY THIS SIMPLE EXPERIMENT WE DESCRIBE ABOVE, CAN YOU 'PROVE' TO YOURSELF THAT THIS THEORY OR ASSUMPTION IS WRONG ?    IF SO, THAN WHY HAVE NOT ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR 'ENGINEERING' COMMUNITY TRIED THIS IN THE LIFETIME SINCE DR. TESLA MADE HIS OBSERVATIONS CONCERNING GROUND RADIO?    IF YOU OR ANY OF YOUR FRIENDS CAN DUPLICATE THIS SIMPLE EXPERIMENT, WRITE ME, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE RESULTS.  OR THE EXPERIMENTS JAMES HARRIS RODGERS SUGGESTESTED FOR HAMS: A  QUARTER OR HALF WAVE INSULATED WIRE 'LOOP'  OR COILED ANTENNA INSERTED INTO A WELL USING ONE OF THE AMATEUR BANDS AS A CARRIER(I TOULD TRY 20 METERS) AND SOMEONE SEVERAL OR MANY KILOMETERS AWAY  USING THE GROUND ROD ANTENNA I DESCRIBED OR BURYING AN INSULATED WIRE OF APPROPRIATE WAVELENGTH IN THE GROUND @ 6 INCHES OR MORE BELOW THE SURFACE-BE ABLE TO RECIEVE THIS GROUND WAVE RADIO TRANSMOSSION?  LOOK AT THE ELECTRICAL EXPERIMENTER ARTICLE OF 1919-' MR JAMES HARRIS ROGERS SPEAKS TO THE AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS'.  WITH NEWER EQUIPMENT, THESE OLD EXPERIMENTS SHOULD BE RELATIVELY SIMPLE TO REPEAT.  A 'SIMPLE' RODGERS ANTENNA=TO GO OUT ON A SMALL ROWBOAT IN A LAKE OR QUIET STREAM AND UNROLL  A HEAVILY INSULATED WIRE WITH THE END PLUGGED WITH EPOXY AND ELECTRICALLY INSULATED ON THE BED OF THE STREAM OR LAKE. THE BATTERY POWERED SHORTWAVE XMTR +ANTENNA TUNER IS IN THE BOAT AND TRANSMITS TO THIS 'UNDERWATER' ANTENNA WHICH LIES ON THE BOTTOM OF THE STREAM OR LAKE. ADVANTAGE: SIMPLE AND INEXPENSIVE-NO DITCH DIGGING NEEDED, IT CAN BE ROLLED BACK UP AND TRIED AT ANOTHER UNDERWATER LOCATION AT THE EXPERIMENTER'S WISH.  [ Electrical Experimenter, June 1919, pp136-140 'Rodgers Underground Aerial For Amateurs'   US Patent Numbers Cited/Patent Numbers seperated by comma: 1303729, 1303730, 1315862, 1316188, 1322622, 1349103, 1349104, 1353002, 1362383,1365579, 1372658, 1373612, 1395454, 1424805, 1727536, 750429, 860051, 915993, 1220005, 814942]   Also See:  [ Electrical Experimenter IVol. VI. Whole NO. 71 MARCH, 1919 No.11]  INVENTOR RODGERS SAID THIS IS JUST THE SAME IN EFFECT AS BURYING THE INSULATED WIRE ANTENNA IN THE EARTH, AND FAR EASIER AND LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO FOR THE EXPERIMENTER. NOTE: THE 'REGULAR' HAM WITH HIS ABOVE GROUND HERTZIAN ' WIRE' ANTENNA WILL NOT HEAR THESE TRANSMISSIONS-YOU MUST HAVE A GROUND ROD ANTENNA AS DESCRIBED OR ANOTHER  'BURIED' INSULATED WIRE ANTENNA TO RECIEVE THEM!.  SPIRIT HAS URGED ME TO TELL OTHERS TO WORK WITH THIS-PARTICULARLY IN EVP RADIO EXPERIMENTS. IMAGINE, IF YOU WILL-A VARIATION OF WHAT DR. RAUDIVE CALLED THE "auto-transmission" METHOD- A RODGERS UNDERWATER ANTENNA IN A WELL OR STREAM BROADCASTING AN UNMODULATED OR MODULATED CARRIER TO YOU THE EXPERIMENTER SEVERAL MILES AWAY USING A GROUND ROD OR BURIED/UNDERWATER INSULATED WIRE ANTENNA ATTACHED TO AN AM  SHORTWAVE RECIEVER  AS DESCRIBED FOR THE GROUND ROD ANTENNA GOING TO A TAPE RECORDER IN this VARIATION OF THE RADIO RECEIVER METHOD. HERE, WE GENERATE AN 'ARTIFICIAL'  "non Hertzian" CARRIER WAVE GOING TO THE GROUND ROD OR OTHER RECEIVER SOME MILES AWAY FOR THE EVP SPIRIT VOICES TO 'WORK' WITH TO IMPRESS THEIR MESSAGES ON... OR WE JUST USE THE GROUND ROD ANTENNA FOR TRADITIONAL "RADIO METHOD" EVP RECEPTION AS IS NOW PRESENTLY DONE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE(A MAJOR ONE) IS THAT WE ARE NOW USING THE GROUND WAVE OR non Hertzian PART OR COMPONENT OF THE TRANSMISSION AS OUR MEDIA OR CARRIER.  WILL THIS PRODUCE EVP OF HIGHER QUALITY AND DURATION?  WILL THE PHYSICAL 'LOCATION' OF THE GROUND ROD OR BURIED/UNDERWATER INSULATED WIRE NON HERTZIAN WIRE ANTENNA PRODUCE DIFFERENCE RESULTS: DOES THE LEGEND OF 'sacred ground'  HAVE ANY 'REAL' MEANING OR VALIDITY HERE?    IF YOU ARE COGNIZANT OF THIS, WOULD  USING A GROUND ROD ANTENNA IN ANY HISTORICALLY OR ARCHAEOLOGICALLY 'KNOWN' PRE COLUMBIAN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBAL RITUAL OR RELIGIOUS LOCATIONS BE MORE PRODUCTIVE OF EVP VOICES RECEPTION THAN A 'CONTROL' AREA KNOWN TO BE UNINHABITED AND UNUSED IN ANCIENT AMERICA-'JUST ANOTHER PATCH OF FOREST'?   LIKE IN THE physically flat MIDWEST, WOULD THE MOUNDS OR SMALL HILLS THOUGHT TO BE THE SILTED IN FORMER HABITATIONS OF THE TRIBE OF NATIVE AMERICANS LATER KNOWN AS THE "MOUND BUILDERS" PROVIDE BETTER EVP RECEPTION USING A GROUND ROD ANTENNA THAN SURROUNDING FLAT FARMLAND USED AS A 'CONTROL'?  WOULD CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THAT ARCHAEOLOGICAL "MOUND" WHERE FORMERLY THE TRIBE'S SO CALLED TEMPLES OR SACRED PLACES WERE BELOW YOUR FEET PROVIDE THE 'BEST' EVP RECEPTION?   THIS COULD BE ONLY FOUND BY EXPERIMENTATION-MOVING THE  BRASS WELDING ROD GROUND WAVE ANTENNA/SW RADIO PHYSICALLY AROUND THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THIS ANCIENT TRIBAL MOUND AND RECORDING FOR SPIIT AT THESE LOCATIONS.   WOULD ONE LOCATION BE VASTLY 'BETTER' THAN THE OTHERS?  A  LITTLE AUTOMATIC WRITING OR IMAGINATIVE CONCATENATIONS  LEADING TO SOME HYPOTHESIS NEVER HURT ANYBODY... I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU AND OTHERS IN THE GROUP THINK OF THIS MATERIAL OR 'DO' WITH IT.  DON'T WANT MONEY OR NOTORIETY-JUST WANT TO SEE IF THESE EXPERIMENTS ARE DONE AND IF THE Y  'LEAD' US ANYWHERE.   AS MY SPIRITUALIST BROTHERS AND SISTERS OBSERVE: WHAT 'TEACHERS' IN THE HIGHER REALMS GIVE US IS "HOMEWORK" THE  THE PHYSICAL EARTH IS A SCHOOL AND WE ARE STUDENTS HERE IN THIS LIFE.   WE COMPLETE THE 'HOMEWORK' BY EXPERIMENT AND EXPERIENCE-THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY LEARN SOMETHING HERE.  NOT BY TALKING ABOUT TALK THAT TALKS ABOUT TALK, AS SO MANY OF THE SELF APPOINTED METAPHYSICALLY INCLINED ARE WONT TO DO... TO HUMOUR YOU- can we put the ' physics' back in metaphysics?  WE AWAIT YOUR REPLY  IF YOU WANT TO POST THIS LETTER TO YOUR BLOG/WEBSITE IN FULL, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO...

 

ROBERT FELIX

[email protected]

September 11,2007

 

WE HAVE INTERPOLATED OUR COMMENTS HERE IN TO KEITH'S LETTER.

Warmly,

Keith Clark

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Vol. VI. Whole NO. 71 MARCH, 1919 No.11



ELSEWHERE in this issue is disclosed in full detail for the first time what US Navy officials term the greatest American war invention: "Underground and Sub Sea Wireless."

Last month we hinted editorially on the theoretical aspect of the problem-this month we are face to face with the accomplished fact. The war has revolutionized not only peoples, nations, and the whole world, but many hitherto unshakable scientific institutions as well. For over twenty years the wireless aerial, the elevated aerial wire system-was synonymous with the wireless art. The great radio station, the transatlantic liner, could not well be imagined without its ubiquitous stretch of elevated wires. The greatest pride of the radio amateur, the aerial on top of his house, which to him was symbolic of the young art, is doomed. This change has been brought about over night by the magic want of science and her servant-Mr. James Harris Rogers, American, of Hyattsville, Md.

The aerial wires, down for the duration of the war, will never go up, at least as far as amateurs and private stations are concerned. As for the commercial stations, their towers too are doomed shortly for the scrap-heap. During the war Mr. Rogers developed underground and sub-sea wireless-for receiving at least-to a heretofore undreamed of state of perfection. His receiving station at Hyattsville never missed a word transmitted from French, English, and Italian as well as German high power stations . He received his messages from Europe when a thunderstorm , accompanied by terrific lightening, was going on directly over his head. Recently, too he has done away entirely with static.

 

When the big station at Arlington, near Washington, was out of touch with Europe, due to static disturbances, Mr. Rogers went right on receiving over his buri3ed underground wires, just as if static never existed. Indeed the Rogers invention knows no static. Static being an atmospheric condition, a ground antenna naturally will not be affected by it.

But the most spectacular feature of Mr. Rogers' revolutionizing invention probably is his "Sub-sea Wireless". Scientists the world over, Marconi included, declared it an utter impossibility to communicate by wireless with a totally submerged submarine. Mr. Roger5s, however, goes right ahead and does it, not only in fresh water but through salt water as well. Indeed he established wireless communication with a submarine whose aerial wires were 25 feet below the surface of the ocean!

 

Although Mr. Rogers, during the war, gave most of his attention toward receiving messages, he has made considerable progress in underground radio transmission as well. His experiments prove conclusively that, while underground radio receiving his here to stay, underground sending too will soon be practical enough, even for high power stations. It is merely a question of good insulation a present, and the end of this year, we are quite confident, will bring the solution of the problem. The Navy Department has just succeeded in transmitting a distance of 50 miles with the underground system.

At first it would seem reasonable that only long wavelengths could be used with the Rogers system. But this is not the case. Underground Radiotelephone messages, seven miles distance; come in just as clear on 300 meters wavelength as does the Nauen (Germany) station with 12,500 meters wavelength. This indeed is good news for our amateurs.

But in the meanwhile, all of our pet theories on wireless are thrown in a sad chaos. For we do not know as yet how the Rogers system works. We can now expect a war to the knife between our wave-propagation theorists and the new school of ground-impulse savants. Mr. Rogers himself takes the view-and he is seconded by Tesla-that the transoceanic messages which he receives over his underground system are not Hertzian waves- pure or even converted-but merely high frequency ground impulses.

The future may tell us which school is right. Hugo Gernsback, editor Electrical Experimenter