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 Posted: Jan 8th, 2007 01:18 PM
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Instead of recording and listening it is possible to hear evps live .

DC6 software allows realtime filtering and noise reduction.A demo version can be downloaded that allows  short realtime filtering.enough for evps .

If we are ever going to communicate, experiments need to be done in realtime.

Using this software there is a short delay as the software processes but I've got it down to a split second.

Att is one I heard.

Chris.

Attachment: dont know.mp3 (Downloaded 2010 times)

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 Posted: Jan 9th, 2007 11:06 PM
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Hello Chris,

That sounds like a pretty good idea, I hadn't thought of that. I had heard of using DCSix to filter live radio communications, and have used it for that same purpose.

I'm definitely going to have to give it a try!

Keith

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 Posted: Jan 10th, 2007 01:22 AM
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Ok Keith...there's a few tricks can be done with DC6 like looping the last few seconds to hear an evp over and over.Let me know when your set up and I can pass on the info.I've been using their various softwares for years .

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 Posted: Apr 29th, 2007 08:14 AM
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Hi Chris and Keith,

I tried using DC6 LIVE and I got an EVP but I could not hear it live as I was speaking.  Is there something in the settings I am missing?  Here's the EVP.  I ask if anyone is there and I hear a man say "Nancy" I think.  I should have been able to hear that live if I was using it correctly, right?  No filtering done to this.  Thanks for listening, Vicki

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 Posted: Apr 29th, 2007 09:22 AM
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Hi Vicki,

I don't think that DCSix would have helped you too much on this one, as it was already nice and clear. Rather than Nancy, I hear "yes". DcSix would be better for bringing down the noise level - such as radio static. Also, if you had recorded this file and filtered it too much live, then your voice would have been filtered also.

There is something I think I should mention.......before you open DcSix you might be listening to yourself live already, with a microphone input on your computer. When you open DcSix, choose the "live" button, and then click on live preview to begin filtering. For starters, perhaps you would like to choose the continous noise filter - set on auto spectrum at about 35 attenuation.

Now, if you are already listening to your microphone  - when you open DcSix you need to mute your microphone input so you don't hear it anymore. Right-click on your volume icon on the desktop down by the time, open volume control, and mute the microphone balance. Why? Because if you don't, and you open up DcSix then you'll be listening to both the filtered audio and the live audio at the same time. You need to mute the microphone input when you use DcSix so you only hear filtered live audio.

If you have more questions, I'l be happy to answer them.

Thanks,

Keith

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Hi Keith,

Thanks so much--I tried your suggestion and I could hear my voice and another EVP upon playback responding to what I said, but I could not hear a thing LIVE.  So while it was recording I said something like "I wish I could hear this," and got an EVP with something like "You could have heard it."  So I guess I'm still not doing something right.  That's what I'm trying to figure out and I can't for the life of me.  I've also asked Chris what I'm doing wrong so maybe with the both of you on my side I'll be able to figure it out.

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Hi Chris and Keith,

Thank you both so much for helping me figure this out.  I immediately got live EVP from my son.  Twice he said his name, once his full name, and he mentioned that he had named our cat Lainai (pronounced Lye Nye), which is true--although we got Lainai after he died, I had the strong feeling he put the name in my head since it was a name that Braden used to use for some of his friends (long story) and it fit the cat perfectly. 

That is an amazing program for live EVP.  Thanks so much!  Vicki 

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Hi Vicki,

That's great that you were able to do that. Not many people use it for live evp, sounds like a great idea.

See you online,

Keith

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Hi Keith,

It works!  I still can't believe it, but wow.  I will be posting some examples soon.  Later, Vicki

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Keith Clark wrote:
Now, if you are already listening to your microphone  - when you open DcSix you need to mute your microphone input so you don't hear it anymore. Right-click on your volume icon on the desktop down by the time, open volume control, and mute the microphone balance. Why? Because if you don't, and you open up DcSix then you'll be listening to both the filtered audio and the live audio at the same time. You need to mute the microphone input when you use DcSix so you only hear filtered live audio.

If you have more questions, I'l be happy to answer them.

Thanks,

Keith

Hi Keith,
I haven't been on here in a while  but came across your tips for using DC6. However, I don't understand really the last part. What should I be muting. It can't be the microphone can it?

Given that I want to also use some background noise (i.e. white noise, etc.) what's the best approach then?

Cheers.
/Milan

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In the playback sound settings you need to mute the mike ,not in the recording box.

When working live with dc6 the playback is through the "wave "control which should be active.Otherwise as kieth said you'll get two sounds as an echo.

Hey Hey Chris.

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Hi Chris. Thanks for the reply. I kind of see what you mean. Nevertheless, once I have the multifilter open (i.e. Live and Live Preview) with continous noise selected, whether I mute the Line-in in my sound panel or not the effect is still the same. I can hear myself, though with a delay.

Anyway I will play around with. However, any idea how I can place a source of white-noise or something like that in DC7 (or DC6 though I'm using DC7)? It seems that the Live mode can only take one input so basically I guess I need to place the Line-In (microphone) near a noise source and just do it that way right?

Also, any suggestions for which pre-sets to use in the Continous Noise Filter? I read somewhere on this forum that Forensics AFDF filter is best. Any opinions?

Best Regards,

/Milan

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 Posted: Jan 7th, 2008 07:03 AM
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Hi Milan,

It sounds like you have your software setup right. As far as putting the mic near a sound source - spirit can use any sound, so the source is yours for the choosing.

I have never used presets for DCSix, but I like to use the continuous noise filter on auto spectrum and also on normal cnf - with the adjustment of the frequency spectrum done by ear.

Keith

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When you say "mute the line",are you inputting your voice through the line input or mike input.(I use line input from a mike pre-amp.)

Bottom line is, whether you input through line or mike,in the playback box only wave should be up,all others down or muted.The wave controls the output of the sound card after it's passed through dc6 or 7.You are hearing the input to dc7 as well.

If you input your voice from a pre-amp into the line input you could use one channel for voice and the other for noise,then combine in dc7 live file converter.

Last thoughts ,some sound card softwares don't allow muting of line playback.They always allow mike muting.Are you using Windows sound panels?The Windows ones are the simplest for dc6/7 arrangements.

Chris.

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Hi Chris,
THanks for your reply. It's actually the line-in on my volume control panel that I'm muting. I'm attaching a snap-shot of what my setup looks like in DC7.

Cheers.
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Looks ok to me...wierd.

Chris.

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Hi all,

just a thought: Realtime EVP might be difficult to hear immediately without repetition, but why not doing a "pseudo dialog": Ask one question and then listen to the recording immediately. Then make the next short recording with only one question, and so on. So you can respond immediately (or with a delay of only a few seconds) to the EVP voices. Very simple, but apparently not practiced often.

Stefan

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That is another way that is useful but DC6 has a trick, that hitting the ALT key puts the memory buffers into cycling and repeting the last couple of seconds over and over till hitting ALT again,thus it's possible to get instant repeats.The lenght of time of the repetioned is controlled by the amount of buffers selected in  EDIT/PREFERENCES/SOUNDCARD/PREVIEW BUFFERS . The sample rate being used also effects that lenght.To get this effect DIRECT X must be active(same window as the preview buffer change0.There is a bug in DC6 that if more than 18 buffers are selected,next time the program is used the buffers go back to 18.The boys at DC6 have been told but they didn't know about the ALT key effect.

Chris.

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Hi Chris, hi all,

chrisg4gpu wrote:
That is another way that is useful but DC6 has a trick, that hitting the ALT key puts the memory buffers into cycling and repeting the last couple of seconds over and over till hitting ALT again,thus it's possible to get instant repeats. [...] The boys at DC6 have been told but they didn't know about the ALT key effect.

Cool! This really simplifies the process of doing 2-way conversations via EVP. Hopefully they won't "debug" this undocumented feature! :biggrin:

I think I know now what my next EVP software project will be...

Stefan

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Holding the left mouse operated in the live window will also do this.

DC6 said they will leave the ALT key function.

Chris.

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