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Rachel EVP Voices
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Hello all
Very interesting to read all of your postings, everyone sounds very busy!
Our most recent sitting was quiet with only two EVP captured in just under two hours. Both captures were on two recorders. For us this is quite unusual but also helpful in its own way - at least we know that our process is not generating false positives.
The set up of the room, when I was all alone on the other hand was quite something. The clips are spoken quickly but audibly. I was somewhat concerned to hear a voice say "Ignite it". I've had two near fires in the seance room. Both were investigated and the cause could not be found.
http://www.evp-voices.info/evp-voices_recent_conversations.html
Hope you enjoy them!
Rachel
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Rachel, I'm hearing "we caught it" on #1 "ignite it". Don't know if that helps as that is just my ears.
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Hi Rachel,
Brilliant captures again - the only one I hear differently is number 5, in that I hear 'Was she dead?'.
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Hi Frank, Alison
Thanks very much for your interpretations of the clips, always really appreciate another pair of ears!
It's very odd at the moment, when I'm sitting focused on the conversation and actively trying to engage with the communicators there's "radio silence". The second I stop and get up and do other things, they're free with comments.
Hopefully things will get back to normal when the evenings draw in. For me and the group, sittings are always more productive in the autumn and winter months. Puzzling!
Rachel
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Rachel, I hear..
1. Is magic
2. The police moved me
3. Yeah I'll try to help you out dude
4. You want the common stuff - Grandfather
5. That is your goal Louise - Ready, I'm wanting to do it
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Rachel EVP Voices
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Hi pol
Thanks for your interpretations, it's interesting that they're not too far removed from ours!
I'll be uploading to the website, a video of the presentation I gave last weekend to the SPR conference and would welcome your take on the clips. It shouldn't take too much longer to complete.
Best wishes,
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
Hope you are well. I look forward to seeing your presentation, I know it will have gone well.
Alison
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Rachel EVP Voices
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Hi Alison
I'm fine thanks!
I think it went well, the feedback has been positive so far. I will be interested to hear what people from the forum make of it!
Best wishes,
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
Well done! that was really amazing and your examples are first class. As you know, we use a totally different method to you and have also noticed the wide variety of accents from Scottish to Indian. I know that we will never change the minds of a lot of the dedicated sceptics out there but videos such as this really should go a long way to help people understand that physical death is certainly not the end. I am so thrilled for you, excellent job.
Alison
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Hi Rachel.... I really enjoyed your presentation and your EVP were brilliant!!
Take care, Lance
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Rachel EVP Voices
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Hello Alison, Lance
Thanks lots for taking a look at the video and for your feedback, I really appreciate it
There were three sessions at the conference on EVP, all of them were positive (albeit in varying degrees). I was genuinely surprised to hear such an open minded discussion afterwards, especially since studies over the last 40 years have created so much controversy.
There will be a review in the next edition of Psychic News here in the UK, but I don't get the paper so will miss it. Any publicity to the subject is welcome in my opinion but I know others are more guarded.
Now for some time off!
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
Thanks for sharing your your presentation a great piece of work backed up with impressive evidence.
Best wishes
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Looks very interesting Rachel / the clarity of EVPs!.
Need to set aside adequate time to watch.
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Rachel EVP Voices
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Domenic, thanks so much, I really am glad that you approve it means a lot that the people here support each other!
Pol, thanks to you too!
Best wishes,
Rachel
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Excellent Presentation Rachel!!
I enjoyed hearing the impetus of your work and the manner you carried it forward by way of research.
I also liked the different accents you picked up in your EVP examples.
Outstanding,
Ron
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Hi Rachel, I've just watched/listened to your video. Fascinating, particularly the voices captured on two devices simultaneously. You seem to have some very promising developments.
Thank you for not prompting listeners with your voiced interpretation first. I think this is very important.
I have some questions and observations:
1) Is it possible to increase the sampling rate of the digital recorders? This would reduce/eliminate the metallic-sounding voices of the 'real' people and the EVPs, although will reduce the length of recording time.
2) Do you have access to a reasonably good quality analogue tape recorder and microphone that you could use simultaneously with the other two?
3) Do the voices only ever speak in the gaps of your conversations?
4) If you are able to get frequent, reliable EVPs, I think it would be an important experiment if you could have at least one recorder with the microphone disconnected, or a dummy one of equivalent electrical characteristics (so the recorder's electronics 'thinks' a microphone is connected). The test may give clues to how the voices are 'getting in'.
As in most of these recordings, the peculiar fragments of the voices are frustrating. I mean, if they can do that, why not something a bit longer - I think there's a clue there if we did but know it!
BTW, did you ever confirm the existence of Percy in your house?
Regards,
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Hello Ron :o)
You're a real treasure, a mine of information and I'd be poorer without your advice ( and your bionic hearing ). Thank you!
Rachel
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Hello Jan
Lovely of you to join us. Many thanks for watching the video and your terrific questions.
As Ron will testify, I'm not the best technically minded experimenter and will gladly put my hands up for help.I'll do my best to answer your questions and comment but if you think the answers are lacking in depth, don't hesitate to say and I will try better next time!
Q1)Is it possible to increase the sampling rate of the digital recorders? This would reduce/eliminate the metallic-sounding voices of the 'real' people and the EVPs, although will reduce the length of recording time.
Q1 Ans. Yes it most definitely is possible to increase the sampling rate and I have tried numerous runs with a much higher quality recorder. However, and it is a big however, the higher the sampling rate, the fewer the EVP. When using the Olympus VN2100 which I use at the XHQ setting - 16 kHz, the captures are at their best. Using an Olympus LS10 at 96 kHz, all but the strongest EVP are missed. Only when running parallel sessions do you see how vital the noise of the lower grade recorder is as a carrier wave.
Q2) Do you have access to a reasonably good quality analogue tape recorder and microphone that you could use simultaneously with the other two?
Q2 Ans. I have an analogue recorder that is almost new, however I wouldn't say it was a good quality. I have used it in parallel with one recorder but not two. Bearing in mind that our recordings are two hours long and I have a busy job on top of research, there are only so many hours in the day and three recordings of one sitting is not feasible. If I was able to dedicate more time to research then maybe I would try this, for now analysing two streams is my limit. I can almost hear you all saying "make shorter recordings", but that's not how we work. When we sit, we sit for 2 hours, it's not for the EVP it's for the physical circle and rightly or wrongly our priority is making the sitting work.
Q3)Do the voices only ever speak in the gaps of your conversations?
Q3 Ans. Heavens no, I wish they did, they're not that considerate! I don't post samples of the voices speaking over ours as they're very difficult to understand and ambiguous. We do have plenty in the archive though.
Q4)If you are able to get frequent, reliable EVPs, I think it would be an important experiment if you could have at least one recorder with the microphone disconnected, or a dummy one of equivalent electrical characteristics (so the recorder's electronics 'thinks' a microphone is connected). The test may give clues to how the voices are 'getting in'.
Q4 Ans. Umm. Scratches head. Are you thinking to rule out an electrical anomaly or PK or to confirm the sound as a wave? It's a very good idea and I'm more than happy to give it a go on our next sitting and report back.
As in most of these recordings, the peculiar fragments of the voices are frustrating. I mean, if they can do that, why not something a bit longer - I think there's a clue there if we did but know it!
Every sitting without fail I ask the same question. If they can be so clear in making an observation, why can't they tell me something more important - tell me how we improve the link, how to record longer messages, how to know when they're ready to communicate, what equipment should we use, what's the best environment... I sometimes wonder that if I suspended my overly critical reviewing of the recording, there may well be an answer in there. I ignore and disregard most B and C grade EVP, primarily because if I can't hear it easily, it's likely to be noise. Who knows what I've missed!
BTW, did you ever confirm the existence of Percy in your house?
I am so glad you asked about Percy. I really think I should have ended the story about him;
A family member, X, was out late at night and got in a taxi to come home. X told the taxi driver where to go and after a while, the taxi driver started talking - how strange he used to live in that street. When they got to the street, the taxi driver asked what number, X told him. How odd the taxi driver said, "that's where I used live". He carried on; "did you know that house is haunted? My little sister was plagued by the ghost of an old man, Mr Thorne, who died alone in the back bedroom". X said nothing and paid the taxi driver. X didn't tell me, my Mother did, shortly before she died.
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Hi Rachel and thanks for the detailed reply.
Q4)If you are able to get frequent, reliable EVPs, I think it would be an important experiment if you could have at least one recorder with the microphone disconnected, or a dummy one of equivalent electrical characteristics (so the recorder's electronics 'thinks' a microphone is connected). The test may give clues to how the voices are 'getting in'.
Q4 Ans. Umm. Scratches head. Are you thinking to rule out an electrical anomaly or PK or to confirm the sound as a wave? It's a very good idea and I'm more than happy to give it a go on our next sitting and report back.
It would rule out that the actual voices are produced as sound waves. But that's more or less already ruled out as you don't hear them at the time they are recorded. If you had a stereo recorder (digital or analogue) you could use one normal mic and one dummy mic. (The spec. of the VN-2100 looks like it's just a mono voice recorder.)
In fact a stereo recording set up properly with two normal mics (or better still a binaural recording - you might have to Google that) may give some spacial data as to where in the room the voice is coming from - if it is a voice. On the other hand if there is no spacial data (exactly the same 'voice' on both channels) it may suggest the voice signal is getting directly into the electronics some how.
(I can't believe this hasn't been done years ago. There have been enough EVP researchers over the decades. I've had no success of any type in my EVP research otherwise I'd have done it! Perhaps I'm just not open-minded/spiritual enough...)
You could try different levels of white noise playing from a speaker in the room to act as the noise being 'modulated' by the entities. It's more 'even' and predictable than water-made noises. There are some websites that will generate it and you could play it though your computer speakers. Others may disagree, but I think this method may be leave sceptics to say it's just pareidolia, and I believe they may have a point.
It seems you get frequent EVPs during your sessions (every session?), so that's why I make the suggestions.
I was interested to read that your higher bit-rate recordings give poorer results. Again another clue I suspect.
So, back to Percy... was it Percy Thorne?
Jan
PS: Apologies for the blank posts. Trying to fathom how the quoting works here and can't see how to completely delete a post.
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Hi Jan and all,
There has been experimentation done to identify the entry point for voices. The results that have come from my attempts and those of other researchers indicate that multiple entry points are likely, and that an accumulative process is in effect.
Bill Weisensale in the 1980s conducted an isolation experiment that went something like this:
Connect the audio output of an AM radio directly to the line input of a tape recorder. Set recorder to record mode, tune the radio so it is tuned to a blank spot in between stations. Test there is no recorded radio reception by playing back a recording. Then place the setup in a sealed metal drum while the recorder is recording the static. Result: voices on playback are evident once retrieved from the drum. Conclusion: Voices not acoustic in origin (no mic used) and is not a radio signal. Likely to be direct influence within the electronics that shapes internal or radio received/ generated noise into a voice.
Another experiment. A stereo recorder, one line input channel electrically patched to radio output. The other (mic) channel has mic and it listens to the radio speaker. Record while setting both channels to be the same level. Result: both channels record voices but the channel with mic and speaker has clearer reception. Conclusion: the speaker mic interface adds value to reception that is already happening.
Compare the two experiments to see it is a complex question to answer, but some clues are evident.
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Hi Jan
The Olympus LS10 is binaural and does demonstrate that the phenomena is captured by both microphones, and is directional. Although recording at 96kHz, EVP are as rare as Hen's teeth.
I will not use any form of white noise unless directed by a communicator. We work well with no additional carrier wave and I'm not prepared to change the method and introduce new variables. I know some see this as regressive but my priority is to establish a good channel of communication.
I'm sure for some that defining the path of capture is critical, for us it isn't and I will not be swayed in the direction of research. If we can find a technician who is willing to work with the group, within our constraints, then maybe we will look at it again but not at the moment.
I didn’t ever go back to find out Mr Thorne’s first name, to me it wasn’t important. There wasn’t a need to prove it to myself or anybody else. Over the years I have asked on occasion if he was able to speak to us but I’ve never heard a reply.
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Hi Sparks,
Thanks for the info. The experiments you describe sound vaguely familiar so I must have read about them somewhere. I'll do a bit of 'armchair research' and see what else Bill Weisensale discovered.
Hi Rachel,
Sounds like you have a plan and a clear method for your research, which of course you shouldn't change while you're getting results.
Good luck,
Jan
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Hello all
We had a very enjoyable physical circle last week, I haven't laughed so much for a long while. It was decided that it was time to re-focus on the physical aspect of the sitting rather than the recordings but it seems ignoring the recorder worked rather well for EVP.
One clip has me and a group member singing; something I only do when I'm alone or in the car. I can most definitely say that none of us in the room sung the recorded tune. We would love to know if anyone recognises it.
http://www.evp-voices.info/evp-voices_recent_conversations.html
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Hi Rachel,
I have listened to your recording and I must say it is a tremendous capture.
Though I do not believe it to be a song as such as it appears to be on of those sing song responses that we used to get a lot of many years ago.
I have slightly de-hissed and it sounds like " Hello there ? ? in the house" .
Great capture
Domenic
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Hi Domenic
Thanks very much listening. I agree that's it more likely to be a sing song muttering than a proper song, odd though. The minute I heard it I jumped on the phone to the group to make sure it wasn't us - it isn't. I'm still sure it's in my voice though which is why it's so confusing for me.
I wonder what on earth will be done next?!
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
In the past I have also received ( as I am certain other researchers have ) responses that I could swear were my own voice despite having no recollection of saying it, this appears to be a typical example of how they are able to transform the content of our words whilst retaining the timbre of our own voices.
It seems that sing song responses are for some reason mainly female why this should be I do not know.
The results will get better ( stranger)as you all continue to work together it was explained to us how hard work will lead to the strengthening of the compatible energies that exist between communicators and experimenters alike.
Best wishes.
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Hi Rachel,
I too have heard responses that sounded like my own voice. Pretty cool if you think about it from a trans-dimensional standpoint and the possibility of having a conversation with another you that does EVP's in a parallel universe.
Regards,
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Hello Domenic, Ron
How much stranger can it get? Trans-dimensional EVP from myself? Oh Lordy!
Who ever this Rachel is in the other universe, I hope she has more free time than me!
Rachel
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