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Hi folks new to the forums and long time investigator. I finally got my hands on a couple of RR DR60's. My question is what is the best setting on this recorder (microphone sensitivity). MY other question is what makes these recorders so desirable? Is it the lack of shielding compared tot he newer recorders that capture more evps? Just wondering, I caught a couple of evp's already!! My last question is how do I transfer this to the computer? Thanks for reading!!
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Hello Scott,
Welcome to the forum.
Wow....you got a couple of DR60's. 
The shielding issue you bring up is valid. I also think the low bit rate it records at produces more noise which equates to more evp's.
As far as mic sensitivity, maybe one of our other members could offer an opinion.
To transfer your recording into the computer...you are going to need an audio cable with 2 male ends.
Plug one end into the earphone jack of the recorder and the other end into the microphone input of you computer's sound card.
Bring up an audio program like Audacity or ???....press play on the DR60 and record the output.
If you need to reference the user manual for anything, you can find it here in PDF format:
http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/RRDR60.PDF
Hope this helps,
Ron
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wow I even goggled and could't find the answer to my question about the microphone sensitivity....
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For the most part...it would be a matter of personal preference through trial and error.
If you find a setting that seems to work good, stick with it.
I'm looking forward to hearing examples of your recordings with the DR60.
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Ron
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Hello Scott
Try looking at the way you work from another perspective, hypothetically, if you're not a believer in the afterlife; imagine that you are the sender of the EVP and you want to make the listener aware that you're able to communicate, what do you do?
Bearing in mind the nature of EVPs, it's not going to be a long message. Most likely one word, at most a sentence. When you were this side of life, you'd speak if you wanted to be heard. Depending on when you were born, if you aren't within earshot of the person you want to talk to, you'd pick up the phone and leave a message if the receiver isn't able to reply. You already have a pair of very good answer machines, you do not need anything else!
One thing I would suggest. If you have two machines record in tandem. A few years ago I did a study using identical digital dictaphones. There was an argument put forward that the EVP was an anomaly in the hardware of a singular device and could not be captured by more than one machine. I captured them on multiple identical devices. By the amplitude of the wave on playback you might be able to gauge an approximate direction and path of movement - presuming you capture more than one voice.
Not having shielded microphones will enable you to work without a generated carrier wave. From my own experience you don't need overly sensitive or directional microphones. Equipment comes second to motive. Without doubt the most important thing to think about when you experiment is why you are doing it? What do you want to know? And who do you want to hear from?
If you want technical advice, ask the other side. If you are serious about working with them, they will help but you'll have to let them guide you. If you dictate methods to them, it won't work. Pick up any book on ITC and sooner or later, you'll read that directions are given when the experimenter is prepared to meet half way.
Ron is right. Find a way of working and stick at it. Only change if you've given the method a sufficiently lengthy time to test it. Provide consistent equipment and a regular recording schedule, and you'll be in with a good chance of developing clear communication - and getting the help you need.
Best wishes,
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Hi Scott...
I like the DR60, and had one of my best EVP's captured with it..... Sometime the voice's on there can be a bit gravelly and you have a lot of shouting come through, which a good few years ago they called this shouting the 'angry man'....
As for settings... it's trial and error and what works best for you and spirit....
I believe the story of the DR60, was that when they came out on the market, people was taken them back to the shops claiming that there was unknown voices on the playback recordings....Panasonic stopped making them and asked for them to be returned.
Here is the EVP I captured... This is a unedited file, you will hear me say, 'Please come forward and speak your name?' then you will hear the EVP, the voice sounds like a young man saying his name 'Matthew'
Hope this helps, Lance..
Attachment: Matthew.mp3 (Downloaded 2005 times)
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Hey Scott,
Nice....a "couple" DR60's :-)
As with ALL voice recorders while trying to capture EVP's I would suggest adjusting the Microphone to Highest setting.
I always use the "longest" play setting on my recorders (also causing the worst playback because of the "white noise" - but you want this...) *You will ALSO need to get a 3/32" mono-male to 1/8" female-stereo adapter for your "regular" 1/8" stereo audio cable (2 male ends) because the DR60 has an ODD Ball headphone output size...
*this is to connect to your computer for uploading-use AUDACITY Audio Software (free) to backup and filter for review...
Good luck with the DR60 - I have a couple myself.
Try this....put microphone setting on high and go into a small "quite" location...closet works good. Turn on recorder to make a recording...and be SURE to be totally quiet. Watch your breathing...
Now look to see if the RED recording indicator light remains lit when NO sound is present...
Also listen to the speaker while recording...see if you can hear a hissing or ticking sound.
The 2 DR60's I have act differently. One has red light while recording when NO sound is present and the other goes into Voice-Activated Feature (while on FULL microphone setting), they both have the hissing sound...
I prefer the one that remains lit all the time. Otherwise the recorder shuts down and waits for something to allow it to open back to recording --- slight volume EVP's are lost. I have a few random "white noise" generators. I plan to use one of the generators next to the recorder that will not remain recording (in quiet locations) and adjust the audio output of the white noise source to keep recorder running. Needs set so that it is barely noticeable though.
Good Luck with you Panasonics :-)
Ooops...........
Forgot to mention - when you are checking to see if the recorder will record in "quiet" locations...and continue to record (red light not flicker--constant on) you must also have the volume control on maximum also, because this increases the volume of hiss coming out of the speaker during recording....and I'm SURE that is what is causing them to remain recording (with microphone on high setting)....though I have heard from others -- as well as ONE of my recorders // that it does NOT continue to record in total quiet locations....so not defective -- but not as sensitive.
*To answer you email message -- as long as you can plainly HEAR what has been recorder -- it won't really matter how loud (or soft) the audio output is from one recorder to the other....you mostly need to upload the recording to the computer at a reduced volume anyway. Maybe like 30-40% possibly less....you want hear the hiss during playback but not extremely loud. In Audacity SOFTWARE there is a setting to increase volume "record" to PC and that will boost the upload from DR60 if needed.
One other thing Scott...you can get the 3/32" mono-male to 1/8" stereo-female adapter at Radio Shack. I would suggest getting a couple when you find them. They are becoming obsolete....I use the chrome/metal variety (around $6 but going on clearance around my location for under $4) they make a cheaper plastic housing variety also -- but I highly recommend the full metal version.
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I read an online description of an eBay listing for a DR60 awhile back and the guy said the one he was selling had a "marker" marking on the volume control of the recorder...he claimed that was the IDEAL location for HIS recorder and that would help "enhance" the recording abilities for EVP. He said the adjustment would vary from each individual DR60 for an optimal level...
I've NEVER heard that anywhere before except for the description on his item up for sale. But I do know that the volume control DOES increase the "white noise" -- hissing sound coming out of the speaker during record mode on the Panasonic RR-DR60.
Let me know if that helps. I've never changed outside of FULL on Volume and Microphone level. And that works very well for me.
Jim H.
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I'm pretty sure the "angry man" or -screeching- sound is caused by the "Voice Activation" feature of the DR60. I noticed it when I first got my recorder and accidentally had the volume control down to far...causing the "activation" feature to turn on/off during recording... And when it changed from not recording - back to recording >> It caused all sorts of racket, stumbling, screeching and rumbling sounds during playback. You can try that...
Adjust the volume setting while recording "down" until you see the red light go out (or flicker) then when you talk loud enough to activate the VOX (voice activation) the light will come back on. If the adjustment is "sorta" correct -- (not to particular) you will hear the grumbling and LOUD noises.....
Be careful if listening with headphones!!!
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Hi Lance, folks
What a fantastic clip! Thanks for sharing. Have you recorded the same voice again? I know from my archive that those who are able to speak clearly quite often come again.
You all seem to be very familiar with the DR60. Have any of you run parallel sessions with another recorder? It would be interesting to see if the communicators favor a specific frequency/pitch over a modern machine...
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I've run the DR60 with another type. I would either hear 2 separate EVP's or get a response on only one recorder. The DR60 being the best help for me.
Sony ICD-B7 & ICD-B300
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Folks thanks for the responses I have read everything and its been a great help to me, I have came into possession of another RR DR60 from a garage sale for $4.00!!! So now I have three machines to work with. Two of the are earlier serial numbers, the other one is later. I believe I caught a evp in my house the first time I turned on the record button. How do I shrink the file, it appears to be too big? Last edited on Apr 2nd, 2013 12:02 PM by scott39 |
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scott39 wrote:
Folks thanks for the responses I have read everything and its been a great help to me, I have came into possession of another RR DR60 from a garage sale for $4.00!!! So now I have three machines to work with. Two of the are earlier serial numbers, the other one is later. I believe I caught a evp in my house the first time I turned on the record button. How do I shrink the file, it appears to be too big?
Hi Scott,
If you are using Audacity, you can convert it to an MP3 however you need to have the Lame Encoder installed.
Here is the Audacity start page to get you going:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq_i18n?s=install&i=lame-mp3
Since MP3 is a compressed format....if I were you....I would use Box.com
Their Personal accounts are Free and have 5 gig of storage with a 250 meg limit per file. You can upload your clip and then just post the box.com link for peeps to download and review.
Their link is here:
https://www.box.com/pricing/
Take Care,
Ron
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Hey can you recommend a good site to buy that adapter I was looking on amazon and couldn't locate that adapter. By the way I have three RR DR60's two of them will keep on recording in a quiet room when I have sensitivity at full and volume at full. The other RR DR60 with volume at full and mic sensitivity at full will stop recording after I say something. Really odd. I really wish htere was a way to disable the voice activation.
clockdryve wrote: Hey Scott,
Nice....a "couple" DR60's :-)
As with ALL voice recorders while trying to capture EVP's I would suggest adjusting the Microphone to Highest setting.
I always use the "longest" play setting on my recorders (also causing the worst playback because of the "white noise" - but you want this...) *You will ALSO need to get a 3/32" mono-male to 1/8" female-stereo adapter for your "regular" 1/8" stereo audio cable (2 male ends) because the DR60 has an ODD Ball headphone output size...
*this is to connect to your computer for uploading-use AUDACITY Audio Software (free) to backup and filter for review...
Good luck with the DR60 - I have a couple myself.
Try this....put microphone setting on high and go into a small "quite" location...closet works good. Turn on recorder to make a recording...and be SURE to be totally quiet. Watch your breathing...
Now look to see if the RED recording indicator light remains lit when NO sound is present...
Also listen to the speaker while recording...see if you can hear a hissing or ticking sound.
The 2 DR60's I have act differently. One has red light while recording when NO sound is present and the other goes into Voice-Activated Feature (while on FULL microphone setting), they both have the hissing sound...
I prefer the one that remains lit all the time. Otherwise the recorder shuts down and waits for something to allow it to open back to recording --- slight volume EVP's are lost. I have a few random "white noise" generators. I plan to use one of the generators next to the recorder that will not remain recording (in quiet locations) and adjust the audio output of the white noise source to keep recorder running. Needs set so that it is barely noticeable though.
Good Luck with you Panasonics :-)
Ooops...........
Forgot to mention - when you are checking to see if the recorder will record in "quiet" locations...and continue to record (red light not flicker--constant on) you must also have the volume control on maximum also, because this increases the volume of hiss coming out of the speaker during recording....and I'm SURE that is what is causing them to remain recording (with microphone on high setting)....though I have heard from others -- as well as ONE of my recorders // that it does NOT continue to record in total quiet locations....so not defective -- but not as sensitive.
*To answer you email message -- as long as you can plainly HEAR what has been recorder -- it won't really matter how loud (or soft) the audio output is from one recorder to the other....you mostly need to upload the recording to the computer at a reduced volume anyway. Maybe like 30-40% possibly less....you want hear the hiss during playback but not extremely loud. In Audacity SOFTWARE there is a setting to increase volume "record" to PC and that will boost the upload from DR60 if needed.
One other thing Scott...you can get the 3/32" mono-male to 1/8" stereo-female adapter at Radio Shack. I would suggest getting a couple when you find them. They are becoming obsolete....I use the chrome/metal variety (around $6 but going on clearance around my location for under $4) they make a cheaper plastic housing variety also -- but I highly recommend the full metal version.
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scott39 wrote:
Hey can you recommend a good site to buy that adapter I was looking on amazon and couldn't locate that adapter. By the way I have three RR DR60's two of them will keep on recording in a quiet room when I have sensitivity at full and volume at full. The other RR DR60 with volume at full and mic sensitivity at full will stop recording after I say something. Really odd. I really wish htere was a way to disable the voice activation.
clockdryve wrote: Ooops...........
Forgot to mention -
One other thing Scott...you can get the 3/32" mono-male to 1/8" stereo-female adapter at Radio Shack. I would suggest getting a couple when you find them. They are becoming obsolete....I use the chrome/metal variety (around $6 but going on clearance around my location for under $4) they make a cheaper plastic housing variety also -- but I highly recommend the full metal version.
Hi Scott,
Do a search for: 2.5 mm mono female to 3.5 mm stereo male and you'll find several varieties in all price ranges.
Ron
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Here is a clip from ghosts of Gettysburg from a gentlemen named Mark Nesbitt who uses an RR DR60's to catch some evp's. Its near the end of the clip but the three clips are awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06aWEzZnK94
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Hi Scott,
Congrats on scoring a couple of DR60s. I am sure you will find these recorders to be among the best when it comes to capturing EVP. With a fixed sampling rate frequency of 6 kHz, the recorder produces enough noise artifacts for capturing EVP, while maintaining a good enough level of clarity for audio interpretation.
I would recommend experimenting with ALL microphone sensitivity levels. The instruction manual for the DR60 states levels 1-2 should be used to record only the louder sounds, while levels 4-5 should be used to record lower levels of sound than usual. IMO, level 1 of 5 is the most sensitive and captures the most EVPs. However, I have found the "angry man" and irrelevant noise artifacts to come through more on this setting. The voice activation on this setting seems to always "trigger," resulting in more noise artifacts and EVPs. IMO, level 5 of 5 seems to be more selective and captures more obvious noise artifacts and EVPs. I have found this to be true for all of the DR60s I own; however, I know other people will have different results and ultimately varying opinions on how to use the recorder. For example, Debbie and Mark Constantino (famous EVP researchers and Ghost Adventures' guest stars) set their DR60s to level 4 of 5 (4 bars). They say this is the most effective setting for capturing EVP.
I do not have any opinions regarding the magnetic shielding of the DR60, but I do have the service manual with electronic schematics I could send you via email. I cannot interpret the schematics at the moment, but maybe it can help you research the inner-workings of this little EVP powerhouse.
Clockdryve has some great advice regarding the use of this recorder. I have also heard adjusting the volume to a certain setting while recording aides in the capture of EVP. I was instructed by one fellow researcher to keep the volume at 0 (all the way down) for the best results. I have also heard placing the volume to the max setting (all the way up) is best. Others suggest each recorder has its own ideal volume setting while recording to maximize the probability of capturing EVP.
Also, like Clockdryve said, some DR60s will continue to record in complete silence and others will not. Two of my DR60s are sensitive enough to the point where the voice activation is constantly "on" and searching for an audio signal during complete silence. The other one stops recording when it is silent.
Lastly, when testing for EVP, use all of the DR60s at once. It is interesting to see what each recorder picks up compared to the others. I will sometimes turn on the DR60s with other recorders as well. The Panasonic RR-QR80, QR100, QR200, QR240, and QR400 (all 8 kHz LP and SP mode) are great companions to the DR60. The Olympus W-10 (3.9 kHz LP mode), Sony ICD-B510F (6.94444 kHz LP mode w/ built in radio for Direct Radio Communication), and the Sony ICD-B16/B26 (7.2 kHz LP mode) are great to run side by side with the DR60s. The Sony ICD-B7/B17 (8 kHz LP mode) and ICD-B25 (it's a B7 with VOR) are good too. I also like running a recorder that captures high fidelity uncompressed sound (24 bit/96 kHz or 16 bit/44.1 kHz) along with the recorders listed above for audio verification.
Upload some of your EVPs when you have a moment! You already know from the other posts to use the 3/32" adapter with 1/8" audio cable to transfer files from the DR60 to your computer. With the DR60, I occasionally use a BBE Sonic Maximizer direct input box, Pro Tools, and equalizer / noise reduction plug-ins to clean up the audio signal and EVPs. However, Audacity is an excellent program as well, and along the way, you will find what program works best for you. Sometimes, you may not want to edit the audio file or EVP and leave it in its original state. There are varying opinions on the topic of whether or not to edit EVPs. I usually keep an original and edited version of each EVP captured.
All the best to you!
Be well,
Joshua
***By the way, great job scoring a DR60 for $4.00!!!!!***Last edited on Apr 24th, 2013 02:12 PM by Joshua Sean |
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Guys thanks for the great responses. Sorry I am posting late but I been busy. I been catching alot of evp's with the RR DR60 also running it along side my rt evp from Das which records in the 96 pcm not sure what the bit rate is though. I will be uploading my results soon.
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Matthew saying his name, sounds from a living person!
I'll be keen to get a DR60.
My digital Sony recorder isn't ideal.. operating noise a hindrance & messages commonly too faint.
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Hi Pol...
Glad you enjoyed the 'Matthew' EVP.... But I can honestly tell you that I was the only person there at the time and all external noises were noted on the time of recording, if there is to much external noise then I will not record.
Take care, Lance.
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 Found RR DR60 on Ebay!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-RR-DR60-Digital-IC-Recorder-EVP-Ghost-Hunt-Rare-Early-Original-Version-/330963914808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0efc9038
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Wow that price won't stay low forever!!
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Hi Snoodle,
Welcome to the forum.
Typically we don't see items for sale on the forum, as explained in the forum rules. Since your first post was to make the effort to let everyone know that one was for sale on eBay, and posted within a short time period after the ebay ad went up, it would be natural to assume it is your ad; however, as that is not the only possibility and I can certainly be mistaken, and you may have signed up to the forum just to help someone else, I apologize in advance for any unintended offense.
In the future, please do not post links to items for sale.
Thank you for understanding.
.....and, if you are involved with working with spirit we welcome you even more, as that is why we are here, and we encourage you to share your experiences and ideas with others here.
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Friends
I need help.
I have 2 devices Panasonic RR-DR60 Digital IC Recorder Refurbished NEW
One with a serial number FD8GA
And one without a number at all.
2 physical devices refurbished - I noticed that the batteries went into reverse (2 plus the battery IS up)
Can anyone tell me how much pay without a serial number?
And some with the serial number?
I want to sell the two devices, need money!
I turned and it shows 1998
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This is strictly my opinion only.
You will need to let other places be your guide...like online auction sites.
A couple of years ago, it might have been worth the money people were asking for them.
But now...traditional evp work has really fallen off in favor of ghost / spirit boxes and apps.
The rr-dr60 may only appeal to a collector now.
Good luck,
Ron
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The Paranormal Field is pretty much Dead. Now people play with Tinker Toy software they buy from Shysters like Steve Huff, and pretend they have instant mediumship abilities.
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Paranormal field is..'dead'...heh.
You're not alone in this opinion. This exact statement was made by a friend of mine a couple weeks ago about all the "tinker toys" and how people suddenly become mediums and develop psychic abilities out of nowhere.
 
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Hi! I know this forum may no longer be in operation but i have a question - I have purchased the 2.5mm plug to 3.5mm female adapter, manufactured by Radio Shack, and it will not work with my Panasonic RR-DR60. No audio outputs from the recorder - I've tried headphones and two different PC's. But when I try to record in Audacity as I play on the DR60 (as I do successfully with all other recorders, such as the Sony ICD B16), no audio is being input into the PC.
I contacted the seller and he informed me that none of those adapters work for transferring the raw recording files to PC for review.
Is he correct? Or did he sell me a recorder with a bad audio output jack?
Scott Johnston
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I'm thinking he sold you a defective DR60 (audio out) - because I've used plenty of the adapters from radio shack that fit...and all have worked. I prefer the all metal ones when I can get them - only because they are more solid.
*If it's not been long ago from Ebay purchase (I think is around 45 days now) you can put in a DISPUTE and get your money back. I'm sure you paid well for it - I have in the past. Your messaging to the seller (if through eBay) has been recorded so you have proof that it was right after the sale that you noticed a problem. Good luck.
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You might test the adapter to be sure it's not defective also.
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Update...
JUST for fun, I tried something.
I plugged in the Radio Shack "2.5mm MONO plug to 3.5mm female adapter" into the RR-DR60, then just plugged my Sony headphones' 3.5mm STEREO male plug into that adapters female end and the audio from the DR60 DOES output to my headphones! So i assume that means the recorders output jack is okay?
Since this appears to be an RCA mono-to-stereo adapter. I've ordered a dual male end 3.5mm stereo cable, and if that works, allowing me to transfer the audio to PC from the RR-DR60 I'll post back here and let you know!
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Nice! That's good to know. Excited to hear what you've gotten so far on it!
If you ever take the case apart, please post HD photos of the inside of the recorder. It'll help with some research big time.
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I doubt I'll ever disassemble it but I'll definitely take pics if I do!
I used it once so far, in a paranormal investigation a few weeks ago. The good news is I recorded 5 files of sessions.
Bad and unexplained news? I removed the batteries (only way to power it off aside from just reversing one battery), and it sat for several days while I was waiting for this adapter to arrive so I could transfer the audio.
While I was waiting for the adapter to come, one night I put the batteries back in to listen to my stuff through the recorder's speaker. All 5 files were gone. NO idea how that happened. According to the manual the recordings are unaffected when you leave batteries out longer than 3 min.
I believe sometimes entities can and do cause date to be erased from devices - I've had it happen on video equipment (Xcam SLS) and I have also spoken with other investigators who have experienced it.
Has anyone else heard of any issues with losing recordings on their RR-DR60's??
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That's what I use....the radio shack adapter that fits in the audio out on the DR60 (mono/male-stereo/female) and a dual stereo "male/male" patch cable from adapter to PC.
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Edit: Some reason was a double post
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Sometimes (rarely) you will install batteries and the recorder will fail it's boot up sequence...showing that the recorder memory is FULL (will not be able to record).
The way to fix this problem is to take out one battery, then HOLD down MENU button and PUSH wheel IN....then reinstall battery as you hold down those two buttons.
This WILL fix it. I had same problem a few times before. Is a common issue with the DR60 but rarely happens.
When you HARD BOOT the DR60 this way to FIX the "memory full" issue - you WILL LOSE anything that was on the memory. So be sure to have a backup of any important EVP you keep for Demos or anything - Just in case.
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Ok great info!! Thanks!! I'll remember that, and yet that is what perplexes me. I didn't do a reset of any kind prior to losing those files. I did re-install batteries, but got no error message of any kind "Full" or "sorry". So I'm really curious about how those files vanished...
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Yeah I finally figured out the 3.5mm male going into the adapter needed to be stereo I was bummed for a few days before I figured that out.
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clockdryve
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I would have thought your headphones were stereo and would have been basically the same as the stereo audio cable. ??
Edit: I only remembered you said you tried the headphones in your first text - were they didn't work...I failed to remember your updated comment were the headphones worked.
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Ive had the issue with data missing before. It actually happens more often than people think, especially with Spirit Box sessions and older EVP recordings.
One trick I found is to video tape the play back of these recordings i.e. listen back immediately, on camera. This creates a backup, and the potential for more evidence.
I have proof that a response has changed over time by doing this method (which is freaky af).
Also John Huntington on YouTube has experienced this before with an upload he did a few weeks ago.
Spirits/Entities/Demons can and will erase data if they see fit!
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Hi - hey is there any way to record on the RR-RR60 WITHOUT having the voice activation come on? I want to use it for EVP sessions, which require stopping after I talk giving spirits several seconds to reply, while still recording in case they do. If the recorder stops recording in silence every time, I have no use for it at all, which is a shame. So far i have been unable to get it to record after i stop talking....
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onionman wrote:
Hi - hey is there any way to record on the RR-RR60 WITHOUT having the voice activation come on? I want to use it for EVP sessions, which require stopping after I talk giving spirits several seconds to reply, while still recording in case they do. If the recorder stops recording in silence every time, I have no use for it at all, which is a shame. So far i have been unable to get it to record after i stop talking....
Hi Onionman, To my knowledge the DR60 only works with voice activated setting.
After you speak, and leave a silent space, it should start recording when spirit speaks or when a noise is heard? Have you got the mic setting on High sensitivity, this should help?
Hope this helps, Lance.Last edited on Jun 6th, 2017 11:14 PM by lance |
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Thanks! Yes I do have it set to high, and the odd thing is I HAVE sometimes had it record entire EVP sessions of several minutes with out stopping recording even in silence. But now, it won't do it and I have no idea why... Haven't changed anything that I am aware of! I must have gotten really lucky since now I can't duplicate that. I'll be selling it for sure if it won't let me record sessions where recording keeps going even as I am silent. Have no use for it otherwise. NO idea why it has sometimes but not others. Thanks for your input though
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Figured it out (at least on my DR60). To PREVENT voice-activation from coming on, I make sure the playback volume button (black wheel) is turned all the way UP before I start recording. Voice activation has remained off 100% of the times I have done this, and in the process I am also capturing some fantastic EVP's (mic sensitivity set to level 5)
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Yes, that is the way to activate (lower volume) and deactivate (higher or full volume) of the VOX (voice activation) feature. I also had to find this "the hard way" since it was overlooked when they printed the short user manual; Good luck with your DR60. Mine hardly ever lets me down :-)
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I have captured several amazing EVP's now with this recorder! And transferring them to PC for cleaning in Audacity has been huge...
SO glad I figured out the way to disable the voice-activated recording.. I was about to sell the recorder lol
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There were later models that you are not able to reduce/stop the voice activation feature and is not helpful for quiet EVP work. I have 2 of the good DR60's and one of the "bad" DR60's. Luckily the one new model that VOX cannot be disabled only cost me $250 a few years ago.
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Hello -
Is there a definite difference in the EVP capturing ability of DR60's with different serial numbers, particularly the first 2 digits? My understanding is that the serials FA - FF are the ones which are desired since these were before the "fix" was made to the DR60's.
Is that correct, that serials AFTER FF are not the good ones?
Also, is the FA (very first) series any better than the others?
Just curious.. and thanks in advance!
Scott
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The "fix" was a change in software that makes that DR60 less sensitive. If you have the microphone all the way turned up AND volume control all the way turned up - in a quiet location....the recorder will cycle into the VOX (voice activated) feature, and the recording will STOP until the background noise level increases to allow recording to start up again. You can tell if voice activation is happening because the red light will flash on and off in a quiet area (like a closet or something). *Be sure you have the mic and volume on max or even the older "non fixed" DR60's will VOX. Reason being not as good is because the EVP's are mostly very near the static levels - most silent areas of the recordings.
You can tell if you have the non fixed DR60 a different way too (or same to determine the other) and that is to have microphone on maximum, volume turned up to maximum...
Now push record - if you have the older variety you will hear a HISS sound (white noise) coming out of the DR60 speaker - not out of the "fixed" variety.
You MIGHT get better results with the less sensitive DR60 by putting a low volume white noise source close enough to not be to loud, but enough to just keep the recorder from tripping into voice activation feature.
I have 2 of the older DR60's and 1 of the FIXED. I bought a random white source generator and had planned on trying what I mentioned above -- but I moved twice and don't know where I put the newer recorder. I'm well aware of where my two older units are tho.
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As long as you hear the HISS "FA-FF" there should be no difference.
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The responses I've heard on HOPE Paranormal & Huff Paranormal using the DR60 haven't impressed.. expected better for the price
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nItX8VZbF7M&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2fdJozBfl8
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Great info! Thanks! I have two in the FF range, and both DO have that aforementioned "hiss" when I set mic sensitivity to high, and then max out the playback volume wheel. So, I'm relieved
Hey another question! Do you know if the Japanese market version (Japanese letters on the front) is any better or worse for EVP? Or is it the same as the US version?
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Hello I'm just checking to see if there is any new info out there regarding the different serial number ranges of DR60's, in terms of their ability to capture EVP's. I'm hearing different stories regarding this. Some say that at one point Panasonic began redesigning and actually reissuing the DR60 due to the "unknown voice" issue, meaning that only DR60's up to a certain serial number range are one's that will get results. Others have said the DR60 wasn't ever redesigned, but instead Panasonic replaced it with the RR-QR80 and asked people to return their DR60's. Does anyone know the real story?
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Hi Scott, I have been using my Panasonic RR-US360 for about fifteen years.. captured many phenomenal sound energies using it. This Panasonic recorder is about the only audio recorder I need to use the Panasonic Software in order for my computer to recognize it. I am thinking you need to simply get the proper software and install it on your computer.
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