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During a session on 02/04/2013 I asked Spirit to say their own names (for purposes of identification)- many did. The name "CLAYTON" kept coming up and try as I might I couldn't find an established Clayton family in my area.
2 days later an old citrus plant caught fire on S. Clayton St. in the next town- Mt. Dora, FL...nearby propane tanks became an immediate public safety concern-
The city squelched the news report- wouldn't even have known but a friend of mine lives on Clayton! (Forgot all about her address till she reminded me; I was asking everyone I knew if they knew the Clayton family)
The attached file contains all 7 Claytons.Attachment: DW_B1218 (DVR) CLAYTON (7x).mp3 (Downloaded 885 times)
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This file is one of the intact clips within which "Clayton" was mentioned. Attachment: DW_B1218 (DVR) (11) CLAYTON DAN UP.mp3 (Downloaded 909 times)
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That's amazing!
I'd be very interested in knowing what methods and equipment you are using. I tried to look up a DW B1218, but didn't get much at first glance...
Take care and nice work!
Rick
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Hi Rick,
I'm using a Sangean "Ghost Box" frequency scanner and an Olympus digital voice recorder -My jaw dropped when I heard the results!
This particular clip came from the 3rd rec. session -17 individuals said either their own names or the names of Loved Ones; Very encouraging! (So far the messages are only a 1-4 syllables in length.)
Regards, Kenda
ReshRick wrote:
I'd be very interested in knowing what methods and equipment you are using...
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ReshRick
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Thanks dkenda.
I'm going to have to look into some of that!
Take care!
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Hello dkenda
Do you know where on the web I might find the technical specifications for the scanner?
I can hear a very clear "Hello" but not Clayton. I think the scanner requires a bit of familiarisation from my side, listening to EVPs is very different.
Best wishes,
Rachel
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Rachel EVP Voices wrote:
Hello dkenda
Do you know where on the web I might find the technical specifications for the scanner?
I can hear a very clear "Hello" but not Clayton. I think the scanner requires a bit of familiarisation from my side, listening to EVPs is very different.
Best wishes,
Rachel
Hello Rachel:
The radio Kenda is using is a converted am/fm portable radio.
There are several models of radios that can be converted for this purpose.
You can find instructions here:
http://www.keyportparanormal.com/simpleghostboxhack.html
There are also instructions and videos on youtube for other models available online by doing a search for ghost box conversion.
Some people opt to purchase a P-BS7.
Still, others like to play around with ghost box apps for smart phones. One is called SpiritVox.
Regards,
Ron
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Hi Rachel,
You can find a ghost box on Ebay. Some come with additional speakers (a nice accessory)...My only suggestion- conducting sessions in the presence of other people, it's tempting to shout out what you hear- it's hardly ever what you initially think it is (results in cluttered Q and A).
Via a radio Ghost Box, Spirit-Speak is loud (plus) but unfortunately "dies off" rather quickly- (e.g. 'Good Morning'- the "good" is loud and proud...the "morning" hushed.)
Happy Recording!
Kenda
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Hello Ray, Kenda
I've had a play with the app SpiritVox and I have to admit it made me feel uncomfortable. It has a limited American vocabulary that is a governed by a randomised algorithm. On the Apple app it clearly states it's for entertainment purposes. Call me old fashioned but I think the more traditional approach is more likely to yield more creditable, genuine communication.
I am genuinely fascinated by Frank's Box and the clip that you posted Kenda, is great. I have no doubt that radio waves can be manipulated in the same way that background noise can but there still is a little niggle in my mind that it's pure chance broadcasts that are picked up. I will have to make a box for myself and have a go. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!
Best wishes,
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
The "for entertainment purposes" disclaimer comes standard with all 'widely distributed' paranormal research equipment/software- lawsuit prevention. (Immediately relegates the activity to game=frivolity status- not a great message.) Precisely why Ouija (unjustly) gets a bad rap- really comes down to the user's intention.
I've been "Beta-testing" Spud*Pickles' Ghost Radar Legacy app, Krugism's Ghost Speaker -Android ver...Wanted to see exactly what percentage of the 'communication' (if any) produced a "hit" -determined by specific language and concepts contained in either singular "word lists" or persistent word patterns... And whether or not Spirit might gain proficiency using it over a period of time.
Pretty interesting results (many times related to specific human activity occurring at the particular moment) -But all in all I wouldn't dispense with conventional EVP collection in favor of either one.
I do like the ghost box. Spirit seems to find it relatively easy to use, Great enunciation. It's not clear whether entities "farm" broadcasts for verbiage or simply uses the various frequencies(??) IMHO responses are immediate and sufficiently intelligible.
Happy recording!
Kenda
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I've had a play with the app SpiritVox and I have to admit it made me feel uncomfortable. It has a limited American vocabulary that is a governed by a randomised algorithm. On the Apple app it clearly states it's for entertainment purposes. Call me old fashioned but I think the more traditional approach is more likely to yield more creditable, genuine communication.
Best wishes,
Rachel
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Hello Kenda
I have to admit to playing around with a few apps that are marketed to the paranormal investigation brigade, none have produced any communication that makes sense, I've never captured one sentence. The words that are produced on this type of software seem to need extrapolating to mean anything, for me that rules them out. Messages are what they are, however frustrating and nonsensical! Call me old fashioned but if a product labels itself " For Entertainment Purposes", then it probably is.
I've played and studied Ouija boards for around 40 years and have never taken them seriously. I am firmly convinced that the planchette moves because of unconscious ideomotor action. Many people I know would argue that the "spirit" moves the glass through them, believe what you will.
I like your approach, you're considering how the other side would use the Ghost Box. Having had a play with one now I'm not entirely convinced of the nature of the output, whether it is purely coincidental or if it is manipulated somehow. I think I have a long way to go on understanding the voices, they're far shorter than the EVPs I hear on a tape or on a digital recording.
Please do keep posting your speech clips, I'd be very interested to hear a longer message if you get one ( even if it's not clear! )
Best wishes,
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
Call me a cock-eyed optimist I'm THE most curious person I know...can't help exploring, no matter how lame, obvious or lacking a technique initially appears- I like to think Spirit celebrates and rewards good intentions and dedication...also believe there's a learning curve for those on the other side (have HEARD it in action; Recorded in a Spiritualist Camp- LOUD COMMUNICATION!!...newbies learn to communicate forcefully right along with burgeoning mediums) Consequently, I don't jettison anything too quickly.
Per example, a friend of mine photographs Spirit...lights and orbs just appear for her, no matter what she's using to catch them- phone, camera, whatever. Others in the room can snap the exact same area, same time- nothing.
Worked with a planchette alone for a time and really enjoyed the process...knowing full well it's not me manipulating the object; Helped me get accustomed to shutting down the mind and to the particular sensations associated with physical Spirit interaction.
Kind of feel unless an entity is trapped in a building's "atmosphere" and energetic conditions are absolutely optimum (e. g. running or flowing water nearby, mineral deposits etc.), free-air communication seems a catch as catch can endeavor. New Spirits and very old Spirits are probably at a disadvantage; something I hope alternative methods might compensate for- so I continue to explore
Take care, Kenda
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Hello Kenda
Explore onward and good luck to you!
I'm a bit long in the tooth and haven't got too much patience with these newfangled toys, you never know one might show promise one day.
We may not agree about the Ouija but I admire your conviction, just because I've never seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen
Apologies if I'm being dense but I don't understand your last paragraph about trapped entities and free air communication, please could you explain it a little more?
Does your scanner ever give more than one word at a time? And do you have the same voice more than once? Are you able to recognise voices as people you've known?
Keep exploring!
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
Sorry, convoluted thought process to blame
I meant to say:
It appears only certain conditions make it possible for an entity to affect the physical plane consistently-
e. g. (a) The presence of an earthbound, intelligent Spirit (b) Availability of an energy "pump" in the immediate vicinity -flowing water, mineral deposits and/or a physical medium.
*Not to rule out either the heavy-duty residual entity or the very energetic "drop-in" or "passer-by."
However, it does seem difficult for Spirit to interact under lesser conditions (Energetically speaking, my home is probably ill-equipped) -Visiting entities are at a disadvantage; Consequently, recording free-air, it's a challenge to hear them.
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Hello Kenda
Apologies if I'm being dense but I don't understand your last paragraph about trapped entities and free air communication, please could you explain it a little more?
Does your scanner ever give more than one word at a time? And do you have the same voice more than once? Are you able to recognise voices as people you've known?
I've just started using the scanner in earnest. Used it previously without shielding, whole phrases were common place; but between broadcast blurbs and interference, the bulk of the output was rather overwhelming...With the addition of shielding- while sounding much clearer, louder and less cluttered, it's taking Spirit some time to master. Judging from initial results, I think it will be worth the wait.
Yes, I've recorded people I've known in life, OBE travelers as well.
Regards, Kenda
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Hello Kenda
My mind is slightly boggled by your explanation. You and many more people are convinced of these classifications but they rely on a large dose of belief, where is the evidence that supports them?
You've got a very inquisitive mind and patience, why not wait to hear from those on the other side how it is before reaching a hypothesis? I have only very basic equipment but I'm sure the only reason I have been successful in obtaining good communication is that I leave describing the other side, to them. I can talk till the cows come home how to give yourself the best chances of capturing EVPs but from my own and other's research, I still have absolutely no idea what on earth governs the communication from their side.
How do you put controls in place when receiving OBE clips, how do you verify them? Very interesting stuff.
Best wishes,
Rachel
PS. I have edited this post as I sounded a bit strong, which was wrong. My sincere apologies.Last edited on Feb 18th, 2013 12:46 PM by
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Hi Rachel,
If I inadvertently hit a nerve(??, didn't mean to :-(
Believe me I don't pretend to know HOW things work on the other side...just know what current ITC research postulates coupled with what I've experienced. Per experience, Spirit appears reticent to say much of substance about life on the other side (would we understand??)
The only reason I know certain individuals were out-of-body is because I recognized the voices and the particular manner of speaking- "Pet names" etc...I record in the wee hours of the morning, the individuals were asleep at the time. (On occasion I've seen my husband's energy leaving and returning)
Highest Regards,
Kenda
Rachel EVP Voices wrote:
My mind is slightly boggled by your explanation. You and many more people are convinced of these classifications but they rely on a large dose of belief, where is the evidence that supports them?
You've got a very inquisitive mind and patience, why not wait to hear from those on the other side how it is before reaching a hypothesis? I have only very basic equipment but I'm sure the only reason I have been successful in obtaining good communication is that I leave describing the other side, to them.
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Hello Kenda
It wasn't you, just me getting my proverbial knickers in a twist!
I must learn to be more accepting of other people's beliefs. Being a researcher has brought out my naturally sceptical mind and I do find it very difficult to understand how people can put so much faith in something that we have no proof of. The positive side is that it makes me more critical of my own work.
Post on!
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
Checked your site out, nice! If you don't mind me asking, what program do you use to de-noise? They were a chatty bunch at Cambridge, Love it!
Believe me I absolutely know where you're coming from- I do. This is a site for enthusiasts so- Have been doing this too long- I'm no longer walking on eggshells where EVP is concerned. Not in the name of science and certainly not for skeptics. Done.
Spirits exist (OK, energy beings of some kind-), both you and I know that.
Me sitting alone in a quiet house recording utterances on a shielded radio is no different from you recording anywhere; Science won't authenticate one over the other- Not even if an entity materialized and slapped the sound engineer upside the head. He'd be ostracized and instantly become one of us. We're all in the same boat.
The clip below is quite intelligible all the way 'round- guess they're getting more adept at using the radio! I looped the spirit-speak for the fun of it.Attachment: DW_B1222 (6) FUNNY DAD HELP em LAKE.mp3 (Downloaded 990 times)
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Hello Kenda
What a pair eh?!
I can hear Funny very well, I can't hear the others clearly but my ear still doesn't pick out quick words so easily. I think I'm getting old. You certainly have more affinity with the radio than me, keep at it.
I've been using various updates of the free software Audacity for years but I don't actually use any of the functions. I transfer the recordings in real time and use it to clip the speech, other than that, they are as I hear them on playback.
Cambridge was fantastic and I love it there. I'm not sure they'll let me back though as I did something very naughty; I crept up the fellow's staircase in the dead of night, to the top of a turret and caught some wickedly good EVPs. I've attached a clip that I interpret as "They're accused of activity", I was talking about the reputed ghost in the college and that was the response.
You're right about the materialisation. We had some very odd things happen in red light sittings but the professional observers wrote off everything after a short while. It won't stop me, just makes me more bloody minded to succeed
Have a good weekend, RachelAttachment: they're accused of activity.wav (Downloaded 852 times) Last edited on Feb 21st, 2013 02:47 PM by
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Great clip Rachel-
Acoustics are key, aren't they? Cavernous rocks. You're so lucky to have all those massive historic locations to investigate.
Honestly I'm envious
Going to revisit your site...WIFI trouble- slo-o-o-w loading
Never a dull moment!
Kenda
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Hello Kenda
Cave acoustics are a nightmare to work with, although the gravel underfoot seemed to act as an excellent carrier wave - at least they did at the Hell Fire Caves.
You really don't need anywhere special to record excellent voices; it's far better to stay in the same place, at the same time regularly. When "they" know where you'll be and at what time, it works much better. Ten minutes once a week is better than two hours, here and there.
Sorry about the site being slow, it's got so much graphic content. Even on my machine it can be sluggish...
Rachel
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Funny you should mention the Caves...For entertainment purposes only, I love watching "Ghost Hunters." Primarily because it amazes me how much they MISS (Akin to a vaudevillian troupe at times).
The Hell Fire Caves episode, they were visibly frightened a lot of the time...I heard Spirit speaking very clearly in several places during the piece but they didn't key on any of it.
Enthusiast that I am (alright, zealot)- I recorded the show and analyzed the audio, comparing it to the show's track. Definitely a man and a woman talking...the man proclaims he could, "Get you on the ground and SNAP your head off." The woman was speaking to the man- she addressed him by name...was a while back, have to look in my files- "George" something- I'll find it.
Long and the short of it, the crew took the J the Ripper tour, Whitehall; On a hunch, I looked through the list of probable suspects- Lo and behold, there was GEORGE what's-his-name!!
I'd wager they had an undesirable escort.
Wonder how many attachments they've accumulated over the years? (Chills just thinking about it)
Kenda
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Hello Kenda
Sounds incredible, any chance you could post the clips you've mentioned? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to hear them
Rachel
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I'll dig them out, they're on flash-drive somewhere...had a hunch it wouldn't go over with the Ghost Hunters crew ...AND it's not the most uplifting subject, "snapping" the heads off people.
-Simply could not believe they missed such obvious spirit-speak
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