Jewish Funeral Service draws comment from Christian spirit - Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVP) - Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC)

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Posted: Oct 12th, 2011 08:56 AM

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Spider wrote:
When I asked explain, it was directected to comedy.............what he posted makes zero sense to me, or am I being dense??

No, spider, you are not being dense. I have a feeling that "comedy" is short for "comedy of errors." Spam comes in all shapes and sizes.

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Posted: Oct 12th, 2011 09:04 AM

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I did hear this.

I hear perhaps a faint hint of the "call on Jesus" phrase. However, because it is at such an extremely lower level of hearing, and because I have already been told what to hear, I don't think it stands up as evidence. Had I just listened to this without reading the description first, I would hear absolutely nothing approaching "call on Jesus." Nothing personal; just my opinion.

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Posted: Oct 12th, 2011 11:22 AM

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I guess my main point is that I've really come to question the value of prompts, or cues, when posting audio recordings. I'll be the first to admit that I have been guilty of this myself in the past (many times, in fact). Experimenters are free to interpret their recordings as they see fit. And, of course, the recording process itself is and should always be a purely subjective experience. But when it comes time to present one's work to a larger audience, I feel that subjectivity should be put aside in favor of a more scientific approach--which is just what is needed and required for objective interpretation. When cues or prompts (i.e. being told in advance what words are present in a recording) are used, a recording has no value in terms of evidence. Many experimenters could not care less about their work being considered objective, or scientific, in nature, and I think that's fine; after all, there is no hard and fast rule stating that a single interpretation is incorrect simply because it is the only interpretation of its kind. But when I imagine a scenario in which 100 people listen to a recording, without being told what to expect, and an overwhelming majority of those people hear the same words, I cannot help but think that this would strengthen the "case" for that particlar recording. If a large number of such cases were to be collected, I think more people would be inclined to take evp seriously, and perhaps lend their own talents to this field of study. In the final analysis, I feel that would not be such a bad thing.

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Posted: Oct 13th, 2011 05:58 AM

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dkenda wrote:
Point taken! I seem to have had crazy/great luck with intelligible messages (like everyone else) at the St. Augustine Lighthouse- I'm joining the Lighthouse Guild and camping out there every chance I get...will take your advice

(Though it has happened that two messages actually morphed dramatically in content for only one individual in a couple of group listening situations- we all heard the messages change for said individual...something worth documenting!!)

Am launching an anthropological study ala Jane Goodall and her chimps- Done fooling around, time to get serious!!

Kenda

Best of luck with the chimps!

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