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Hello,
Does anyone know the Pennsylvania town or exact location where William O'Neil and George Meek collaborated on the Spiricom prototypes?
Thank you and I hope to contribute helpful information and new ideas to this forum through my studies and experiments.
Regards,
David
Island Heights, NJ (Jersey Shore)
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lance
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Hello David...
Sorry I can't help you with George and William's location... Maybe someone on here knows...
But Hey!! Welcome to the forum...!!!!
Take care, Lance...
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Keith Clark
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I have never run across that information.
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ArizonaEvp
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The Aqua View wrote: Hello,
Does anyone know the Pennsylvania town or exact location where William O'Neil and George Meek collaborated on the Spiricom prototypes?
Thank you and I hope to contribute helpful information and new ideas to this forum through my studies and experiments.
Regards,
David
Island Heights, NJ (Jersey Shore)
Hello Aqua View,
Here ya go:
Hope This Helps,
Ron
(Photo courtesy of audiomedium.com)
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My compliments, you are very resourceful!
Keith
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Lance, Keith, arizonaevp - Ron,
Thanks! Been away on vacation and just logged in to see the responses here.
I have read a few of Meek's books and I have a recording of George Meek when he was on an radio show hosted by Bill Jenkins called Open Mind. I'm interested in that relationship between Meek and O'Neil and I'm convinced that Meek made an educated decision to believe what was happening in spite of what appears to be O'Neils psycological troubles. I say this because Meek held an exhibit / press conference to showcase the findings of the Spiricom. NPR radio covered the event and I contacted them - but unfortunately - they had no record of it.
I have ideas about the Spiricom but I'm not sure that it will work the same way as the original did due to the interference of all our modern technology floating around.
I know an alchemist - research chemist - who once said that fluorescent lights messed up his experiments while working with gold ( in an unrealated experiment) but his comments were similar to other comments by people experimenting with the unseen and the unknown.
Personally - I'm working on a version of Moody's gazing mirror. If anyone from this forum can point me to a location ( on this site ) where people are talking about that or talking about Meek and O'Neil - I'd appreciate it. If anyone wants to open dialogue about these subjects - I would like to talk too.
Ron:
Where on earth - or elsewhere - did that address come from? ha ha thank you - just trying to get a feel for the location of that piece of time and history / mystery!
Regards and thanks for the welcome to the forum,
David
Island Heights, NJ
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The Aqua View wrote:
Ron:
Where on earth - or elsewhere - did that address come from? ha ha thank you - just trying to get a feel for the location of that piece of time and history / mystery!
Alrighty Then,
If a feel and flavor is what you're looking for..............here it is. Keep in mind that I neither subscribe to, endorse or oppose anything contained in the following sites.
Pictures of the Spiricom:
http://www.audiomedium.com/spiricomstudy/nyd2009.html
Audio / Video Library including pics of O'Neil:
http://www.audiomedium.com/spiricomstudy/mainmenu.html
Assorted theories / opinions:
http://www.audiomedium.com/spiricomstudy/spiricomconspiracy1.html
Podcast from March 12, 2011 of Dr. Stephen Rorke speaking about Spiricom
http://radioamerikanow.com/?p=2014
Mark Macy PDF that contains scans of correspondence with George Meek
http://www.spiritfaces.com/pdfs/my-itc-history.pdf
Happy Hunting,
Ron
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Ron,
Thank you for the links.
I would like to know your opinion about Dr. Rorke. Specifically - in your opinion - is he completely objective?
I was listening to his March 2001 interview on Amerika radio and there's a part of the interview where he doesn't seem to know who asked a question. I'm wondering if he is faking or if in fact he hears a voice asking him a question that the host can't explain.
Not sure if you know much about Dr. Rorke or if anyone here on the forum does - but it just struck me as odd that he broke from normal converstation ( during the interview) to respond to a question that the host seemed confused about who asked it.
Thanks again for the links. Plenty to discover.
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Sorry - I meant to say - 2011 and not 2001 - with regard to the interview in the link you sent me.
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Hi Folks,
Thanks for the inquiry but as mentioned earlier, I neither endorse or oppose anything related to spiricom.
I’m retired so I’ve got some extra time to do some data mining to try and help out here and there.
Even though I have no opinion on spiricom I will say that I find it interesting that I haven’t really run across a replica Mark IV.
You can still find most of the main equipment on Ebay.
For those peeps that have not read the spiricom tech manual….you can find it in PDF format here:
http://www.twelvearound1.com/files/magicoflivingforever.pdf
The bottom of PDF page 34 (spiricom pg 31) begins the description of the Mavk IV.
PDF page 35 shows a block diagram outline of how the system worked.
Below the diagram is the section that describes the system components.
First up is the HP 608 Signal Generator. There is a brief overview of specifications. Important note: Make a mental note of the last 2 sentences that say another signal generator could be used.
Now go to ebay and do a search for: HP 608 Signal Generator
As of this writing there are at least 3 units up for grabs as well as technical manuals which would give you full info on capabilities.
Going back to PDF page 36 of the spiricom manual you will see the next the next big ticket item is the Hammarlund SuperPro 600 High Frequency Multiband Receiver. Say that three times fast.
Back to ebay and this time do a search for: sp600jx receiver Be Sure To Check The Box Under The Search Button That Says: Include Description
As of this writing there are 3 SuperPro’s however two of the auctions end today.
Getting back to the spiricom manual you will see the rest of the items on PDF page 36 are somewhat standard except for the comment about building a tone generator.
Now boys and girls……If you look at PDF page 37 (spiricom pg 34) you will see the tone generator they built.
For right now lets focus on Fig 14 RF Signal Generator and Receiver where you will see a pic of the Mark IV all dressed up and ready to party.
But Wait……….If you look at the pic you will see that the HP 608 is sitting upside down on the floor next to the Mark IV housing. You can see in the housing that below the SuperPro 600 is a new piece of equipment.
Hmmmm….what is it? What could it be?!?!?!?
Oh yea….the manual did say that another signal generator could be used.
Now we have to go to the link that shows pictures of the poor spiricom as it sits today:
http://www.audiomedium.com/spiricomstudy/nyd2009.html
Starting at the Top Row…First Picture On The Left ….
The first pic is of the Mark IV cabinet where you can see the SuperPro 600. (note the empty space in the rack below the SuperPro)
Second Row…Second Picture From The Left….
This Pic shows the back of the SuperPro 600. If you google Hammarlund SuperPro 600 and then click on Images; you will find lots of pics that show both the front and back of the SP600 (for comparison purposes)
Second Row…Third Picture From The Left….
OMG; it’s the mystery piece of equipment seen in Fig 14 of the spiricom manual!!
The picture shows the equipment to be a TS418B/U. But what is it?
If you read through the behemoth 566 page Military Standardization Handbook MIL-HDBK 172A - Volume I - 11 March 1964…..on PDF page 199 you will see that the TS418B/U is a Signal Generator.
The page also says the 418B/U is also known as the AN/URM-49 Signal Generator.
While the TS418B/U – AN/URM-49 Signal Generator is not presently on ebay, one might still be able to find it online or perhaps through some sort of military surplus network.
However…….if you are a techie person who wants to go Tron and delve into the inner workings of the 418B/U; an inexpensive copy of the Technical Manual can be had on ebay for only $10 plus shipping:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TM-11-6625-280-15-SIGNAL-GENERATORS-AN-URM-49-AND-49A-/150589102595?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230fcf5a03
In the listing there are 2 pics you can look at. One is the front cover of the manual and the other is an illustration from within the manual.
Notice the pic and you will see it is of a 418B/U
If you’re gonna buy it you better hurry….I just might beat you to it.
Now….should you desire to save your $10…. instead of providing a link to the 566 page military equipment manual, I have Copied and Pasted the TS418B/U – AN/URM-49 Specifications into a single page Word Doc file.
I have posted it below.
I’m getting hungry for a Scooby Snack so I’ll pick back up in the next post.
Regards,
Shaggy….ooops…I mean Ron
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Forgot to mention that there are many technical and maintenance manuals available online for the Hammarlund Super Pro 600
A google search will bring up quite a few results including the various versions of the SP600.
As an example you can go here for basic info on both military and civilian versions:
http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~glowbugs/SP600.html
L8tr,
Ron
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An interesting read regarding the Meek & O' Neil relationship is The Ghost of 29 Mega-Cycles by John G. Fuller, it long out of print but still available used.
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Dan - thanks - I have the book and funny thing - I had it in mind to re-read. Another Meek book that I am going through is: Enjoy Your Own Funeral.
arizonaevp: yikes - tons of interesting info - much appreciated since I love to read accounts and listen to interviews.
I have had zero connections with the afterlife and it's fair to say I have no gift. I just like this forum and have a stray idea or two with regards to connecting to the afterlife - but I've yet to have an experience that rules out my imagination. I was listening to an audio interview that arizonaevp provided:
http://radioamerikanow.com/?p=2014
and I laughed when Stephen Rorke commented " Bill O'Neil was a schizophrenic ventriloquist who happened to be in possession of an electro-larynx." I don't laugh out of ridicule - but at my continued interest in the Meek / O'Neil relationship in spite of that fact. During that Rorke interview - he answers "yes?" to an unidentified voice calling his name. The host of the program has no clue and thinks Rorke is talking to her. Then it's quickly dismissed and they carry on with the interview. Did a voice from the unknown address Rorke? I find that interesting. It happens in the second hour of the interview. Doesn't sound rehearsed or "added" to add interest or mystery to the interview. It sounds like Rorke responding to a voice from the unknown who calls his name in his headset.
I have to listen to the rest of that interview - maybe they bring it up or explain it.
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Specifically: what I am talking about in the Rorke interview:
In the Hour 2 segment at about 9:03 into it - Dr. Rorke says:
"I consider them artifacs of auditory perception - yes?"
When he says "yes" his voice changes as if answering a question. The host says: "Yes" agreeing with his last statement.
Dr. Rorke ( who said "yes?" adressing the unkown voice) says:
" So did someone just say "Dr. Rorke" as if they had a question?"
And the host says "yes definately" not realizing that Rorke is addressing another voice.
Rorke then says: "yes....so did someone just say Dr. Rorke?......as if they had a question?....no big deal..might have been the board op.."
Host: I..... think it might have been...but.. then again..we don't know.."
Rorke: "hmmmmm"
Host: (moving forward) - you've brought us some clips..
Anyway - just an interesting observation - give a listen everybody and post your thoughts.
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Sorry - here's how the the conversation went:
Specifically: what I am talking about in the Rorke interview:
In the Hour 2 segment at about 9:03 ( nine minutes three seconds) into the segment: Dr. Rorke says:
"I consider them artifacts of auditory perception - yes?"
When he asks "yes" his voice changes as if answering a direct question.
The host says: "yes definately" not realizing that Rorke is addressing another voice.
Rorke says: "So did someone just say "Dr. Rorke" as if they had a question......no big deal..might have been the board op.."
Host: I..... think it might have been...but.. then again..we don't know.."
Rorke: "hmmmmm"
Host: (moving forward) - you've brought us some clips..
(end of my point)
Anyway - just an interesting observation - give a listen everybody and post your thoughts.
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Duuuuude.......that's just too cool for school!! There may be an EVP in there.
Wanna hear it???? I know...dumb question.
What I did was download the podcast and snipped out the portion you refer to at around 9 minutes 3 seconds.
I then filtered fresh copies with Nero Wave Editor and DC7.
I have uploaded the Un-Enhanced version as well as the 2 filtered versions mentioned.
The response is right off the bat at 2.8 to 5 seconds.
As you listen to the entire snippet you can tell the host is a bit confused about the "board op" comment.
Excellent intuition / observation David !!
Lets start with the Un-Enhanced so y'all can filter it yourselves if you want.
Attachment: RorkeEVP-UnEnhanced.wav (Downloaded 1037 times)
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Here is the version lightly filtered with Nero wave editor:
Attachment: RorkeEVP-Filtered-NeroWaveEditor.wav (Downloaded 1065 times)
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When I heard the Nero filtered version I thought I could hear some type of accent in this possible EVP so I fired up DC7 and filtered a fresh copy.
To me it sounds kinda sorts like a German accent........
What do you think??
Attachment: RorkeEVP-Filtered-DC7.wav (Downloaded 997 times)
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A whispered something is indeed there, spoken by a Male, containing three words.
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Hi guys,
Speaking of the book: The Ghost of 29 Megacycles............
If you are ever looking for a book, you might want to consider using:
http://www.used.addall.com
Their search engine goes through many different sites and list the results in a low to high cost format.
Example: If you go to Amazon and search for the 29 megacycles book you will see that the cheapest book will run you at least $25
Doing an addall search for the same book and you'll see you can pick one up from Amazon UK with shipping to the US for about $12.50.
Of course, if you are in the UK then the book will cost you less than 2 GBP.
Just a thought,
Ron
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Hi,
Thanks for isolating the clip. My first reaction was that it sounds like an inhale.
Then I think, if you don't hear that same type of sound on other parts of the interview ( in between when the host speaks and Rorke speaks - then the sound is a unique addition.
That said - my other thought is that the sound is three syllables - or three words like Dan said. My ears don't hear an accent ( German ) but perhaps I can manipulate the audio with other software.
My other initial reaction are taken from clues in the earlier part of the Rorke interview where he talks about his buddy or partner in research who was interested in playing audio backwards. Since the foreign audio appears to be an - "inhale" that - to me - makes it appear to sound reversed.
From personal experience - a long time ago - I was in a friends house where his parents accepted the fact that the house had a spirit. One night, I made a sarcastic mocking joke about the ghost and there was a violent slam against the outer wall of where me and my three friends stood. There was no rational reason for that to happen.
So my thought about this interview and clip is that Rorke was comfortable in segment two of this interview and his views were unopposed. I remember thinking while listening that he was getting his "shots" in - and then someone from "wherever" - beyond - etc - objected.
I just can't make out the sound beyond that it is definately three syllables and that Rorke hears a much clearer version of what we can hear because he doesn't say:
" Did somebody just say something'
He says: " Did someone just say Dr. Rorke - as if they had a question."
Interesting.
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Very interesting. I'm wondering how he could possibly have heard that, being in the midst of his discussion with the host. The normal human perception process of selection would almost certainly have precluded his catching what sounds like nothing initially, even with decent headphones. It follows, unless I am missing something here, that one would have to be focused intently and entirely on the short pause between what one has said and the resultant response, which is extremely difficult to do even if one has decided to select for whatever might crop up in that normal response lag in advance.
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Vicki - you know - your comment made me think. He hears someone call his name.
Personally, this has happened to me a number of times in my home. I hear my name called and I'm so positive I hear it that i don't think twice and answer aloud "yes" or "hold on" and I'll go into the other rooms to the person I'm sure called out to me and they will either be asleep or too far away to have called - or will state that they didn't call me.
The guy hears someone call his name - and the host doesn't even hear it.
I never heard of Dr. Rorke before the other day when arizonaevp put a link in this thread. So I don't know his personality - if he was sly enough to slip a little "routine" into his interview for entertainment sake - or he sells anything or is promoting anything. But I get the sense he legitimately got caught naturally answering "someone" calling his name. They weren't in a segment taking caller questions and the host would have heard the board op.
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Hello All,
David; I don’t know Doc Rorke either and to perfectly honest, I picked the link to that podcast because I couldn’t find the link to this other interview he gave months prior to this. So in some ways, it is very fortunate as it allows us to have a different type of conversation as opposed to no comments at all. In the grand scheme of things I find it funny how things turn out.
I really don’t think it was a planned event on Rorke’s part. Going back to the section in question, I re-listened to the run-up and found he had became distracted moments before that pause.
In some ways I should apologize to you and Vicki because I only focused on the pause and not the actual run-up to the event.
I have snipped out a longer version for y’all to hear.
In the clip you hear Dr. Rorke speak of Audio Rorschach. He then say the phrase explained by me.
At Time Index 10.5 to 13 seconds; As Rorke says I Consider Them there is a possible EVP that speaks over him / at the same time. Rorke hears this and reacts by repeating I Consider Them as one would do if one felt slightly interrupted.
It is after this that he seems to hear someone say his name in the pause which prompts him to responds by saying Yes.
In all fairness….his comment that it might have been the board op could be accurate as shortly after this exchange, the host announced they would return after a commercial. Had the host been busy, distracted or whatever, its possible she didn't hear the board op.
On the other hand, if people can hear the distraction from the Voice Over EVP at 10 – 13 seconds you might notice it has the characteristics of an EVP.
David, you mention being at home and hearing a voice only to find nothing. If it were a paranormal event; that could be considered Direct Voice.
If Dr. Rorke had a direct voice experience on his end of the phone then its plausible he did hear something.
Similarly, if....at his end of the phone....those on the other side happened to manipulate any static that may have been present; then that could explain why he heard what he thought he did and the host didn’t.
All in all, since neither of us was there; all we can ever do is speculate.
So anyways folks, as before, here is the Un-Enhanced longer version of the clip.
Attachment: Rorke_EVP_Long_Version_UnEnhanced.wav (Downloaded 969 times)
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Here is a slightly filtered version of the Voice Over EVP.
I was not trying to strip away Rorke's voice but instead attempted to find a balance that would bring out the EVP a little better.
Whether or not I succeeded is up to you. The possible EVP is in the center of the clip.
Attachment: Filtered Rorke_Voice_Over_EVP.wav (Downloaded 830 times)
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Well, I’m bored with the interview thing so I’ll finish up the spiricom comments I started in my earlier post and then call it a decade with this subject.
Ok………..where did I leave off with the spiricom discussion……oh yea…..
The tone generator.
Going back to the site with the pics of the spiricom; 2nd Row Far Right picture:
The tone generator is in the lower right corner of the picture. The Drake speaker is sitting atop the tone generator. You can compare it to the Fig 13 on PDF page 37 of the spiricom manual.
What with all the new fangled things that have come our way since the days of the Mark IV, one can use any inexpensive mp3 player or digital recorder to play pre-recorded tones. If you have or can find CoolEdit Pro 2.x then you too can generate any tone(s) you desire.
If you wanted to keep the Retro look of the Original tone generator seen in the picture, then just build a box with phony toggle switches and trim pots and put your mp3 player inside. Or you can build a generator if you know your way around a soldering iron.
Only costs a couple of nickels; as my grandfather used to say.
I can see someone's Mark IVa setting along a living room wall with the antenna’s on either side of the machine sitting on small stands. Then all that's needed is a surround sound system and they’ll be good to go.
Well David, that’s about it for me. I hope you enjoy the forum and the information therein. Be sure to check out the Dedicated Spiricom thread:
http://www.itcbridge.com/forum/view_forum.php?id=30
Moving On,
Ron
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Hey Ron -
Thanks so much for all the information and time you spent isolating and enhancing the clips. It helped in more ways then you know since it gave me insight into the audio software used etc.
Thanks for also pointing out the dedicated Spiricom thread - right after I started the longest "introduce yourself"!! ha ha sorry I'm a little slow. But thanks for your patience while I discovered all the other specific topics on this website.
Regarding mp3's and modern technology - I have a lot of it... annnd... I just happen to have this:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-farnsworth-floor-tube-radio
not in the attic - but right in the living room. Didn't buy it from the link but it's a picture of the exact radio I have. Good ole Farnsworth might soon get stocked with a fancy modern tone generator. - ready to go with communications from beyond.
Or maybe I'll get the nerve to plug it in - enjoy about 20 minutes of local Am before it sets our old Victorian home on fire.
Thanks again - good fun - and I'll catch you around the forums. May you and yours enjoy the summer.
David
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Thanks for the extra info and the clips. Makes sense. Since it is clear by his response he did hear his name, I was beginning to think he must be clairaudient.
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A down and out schizophrenic ventriloquist living in a burnt out shell of a house, who's in possession of an electro-larynx invents a device ,Spiricom, capable of real-time direct communication with the afterlife. He records this supposed communication, and is paid for doing so, but when the time came to present his findings to the world, the Spiricom goes silent. Why you'd have to be a fool not to believe this man. Attached Image (viewed 905 times):
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Wow - That's a great picture. I wonder what the ventriloquist routine consisted of?
Imagine if the voice he used for that doll was the Dr. Mueller voice?
Are those pictures from a book? Did you write the comments or is that dialogue from a book or article?
Thanks for the post.
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The photos and William O'Neil's story can be found on links provided by Arizonaevp. The commentary is just my opinion.
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The Aqua View wrote: Are those pictures from a book?
See Post #7 above.....2nd link titled: Audio / Video Library including pics of O'Neil.
At the other site look for : Photos - Polaroid O'Neil images
Ron
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Neil, Ron,
Thank You - Thank You
For the re-direction to those links. I got caught up in another link Ron supplied and missed the information in another part.
So now I'm listening to the clips of Bill O'Neil. It's rather faint and it takes a bit of focusing to hear it all but I must say this: what a wonderful man he was. Such honest intentions and a caring spirit - while on Earth! It's so refreshing to hear his concerns and candid conversations in this clip - I hope others on this forum take the time to listen to the extended audio clips. This is what I like to hear in people.
Now, about those photo's of his burned out house - Wow. He lived there. How could he sleep at night with all of that equipment plugged in?? What a strange, strange story.
Thanks again.
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Amazing amount of information here guys, I'm pretty impressed. I'm gonna look at some of this stuff when I'm at home and have a chance.
Please keep in mind that we are not here to judge character, and that is not only strongly discouraged but also in forum rules. When it comes down to it, none of us were there, therefore all of us will develop our own opinions on Spiricom. Attacks on character are not helpful in any way, are not conducive to a positive environment.
The question is: what are we going to do today? How can we further spirit communication for our future?
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The Aqua View wrote: Hello,
Does anyone know the Pennsylvania town or exact location where William O'Neil and George Meek collaborated on the Spiricom prototypes?
Thank you and I hope to contribute helpful information and new ideas to this forum through my studies and experiments.
Regards,
David
Island Heights, NJ (Jersey Shore)
Hi. I am in NJ as well. Princeton area.
Bill lived in a trailer in Kittanning, then he rented an old farmhouse in Adrian Pa.
This is out near the Pittsburgh area.
I think Bill grew up in DuBois Pa.
I would like to find a relative or anyone who knew him so I can ask them some questions about the healing abilities he supposedly had.
I think that he had 6 children. One of whom may have been named Garry.
The rest of the Metascience crew at the time was in Philadelphia. Meek also had a couple of people in Fort Meyers Fl. Then he eventually moved operations to Franklin, NC.
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Bill O'Neil had a puppet show for kids at a TV station in Cincinnati. Hence, the ventriloquism skills.
I wonder if the farmhouse is still there. It was supposed to be in pretty rough shape.
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Hello all,
I feel that perhaps I should mention that I feel the tendency to discourage contacting family members, out of respect for their rights and privacy. I mean, this was over 30 years ago, and none of the people are alive in physical form to either defend or prove their abilities, and I don't think their families should have to.
Everyone finds the Spiricom story both fascinating and confusing. It is filled with lack of information and inconsistency. What I would ask is that people today see if there's something they themselves can learn from what we know about Spiricom, whether you're in total skepticism or believe in the theory.
I know this: it could have been handled much better, rest assured the mistakes made would never be allowed again. Also, concerning the theory of Meek's purpose for Spiricom setup, it is still a feasible application......I know because I've been working with radio for 7 years now. Are tones necessary? No. May tones help? We don't know.Take away the tones and what are you left with?
Radio.
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Family members don't have to respond if they don't want to. But, some may wish to do so. I have been in contact, for 2 years, with 2 people who actually worked at Metascience, and who actually worked on the Spiricom Marks 1-3. I am only asking them to volunteer information if they want to do so.
You're right!
Most of the main people are long gone or are aged. A LOT of material has also been tossed away. I can confirm that. This is a puzzle with most of the important pieces missing from it. Wouldn't it be nice to have more information to fill in wherever we can? The more we know, the better.
No?
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arizonaevp wrote: Hi guys,
Speaking of the book: The Ghost of 29 Megacycles............
If you are ever looking for a book, you might want to consider using:
http://www.used.addall.com
Their search engine goes through many different sites and list the results in a low to high cost format.
Example: If you go to Amazon and search for the 29 megacycles book you will see that the cheapest book will run you at least $25
Doing an addall search for the same book and you'll see you can pick one up from Amazon UK with shipping to the US for about $12.50.
Of course, if you are in the UK then the book will cost you less than 2 GBP.
Just a thought,
Ron
Thanks for the ADDALL link!
It finds books in like 2 seconds.
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arizonaevp wrote: Hi guys,
Speaking of the book: The Ghost of 29 Megacycles............
If you are ever looking for a book, you might want to consider using:
http://www.used.addall.com
Their search engine goes through many different sites and list the results in a low to high cost format.
Example: If you go to Amazon and search for the 29 megacycles book you will see that the cheapest book will run you at least $25
Doing an addall search for the same book and you'll see you can pick one up from Amazon UK with shipping to the US for about $12.50.
Of course, if you are in the UK then the book will cost you less than 2 GBP.
Just a thought,
Ron
Thanks for the ADDALL link.
It finds books in like 2 seconds!
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Hi Harpo,
Perhaps you're right. I just imagined myself as a nephew or a family relative. If their info goes public they will be hounded endlessly by friend and foe alike. I hope that their info would be safeguarded, and their wishes respected, that's all. I've seen good and bad conjecture on the topic
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I would NEVER use personal info. without someones written permission. I wouldn't want to deal with a libel suit!
Some people want to talk about it, others don't. Some think that it was demonic, others think that it was just silly. Opinions, feelings and beliefs run the gamut, even within the families of those who were involved with Metascience.
I wish that I had known about this 20 years ago, when most of the players were still around and healthy! What really gets me is all of the stuff that was thrown away. The Holy Grail to the whole story could've been inside an envelope or an old shoe box. Now, it's just dust in the ground.
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