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I've been experimenting with this bit of kit for a while and have been talking matters over with another member here.
Today I direct connected it to my computers microphone socket and via a adaptor linked both circuits together.
I then used mic boost and live monitor.
I was surprised how untroubled by electrical noise it was.
I test for sensitivity by touching the short antennas which causes a rise in the buzz during the day but at night you will often here Strong short wave broadcasts!
This test was made in the day.
I ran it through DC Live forensics, used anti buzz filter as there was a 50hz hum and then used an exciter and normalise to human voice.
What I seem to have captured is the sound of a steam train LOL appropriate for me as I love them and am a train driver as well!
Anyway, more importantly there are even to my ears the sounds of voices, and one has a tone I recognise!
Maybe some of you more experienced listeners will hear words?
Hi, just a tech note (James?) our diode box builder has used a 10K resistor between earth and diode output, but most of the circuits I find on line say 100K, this is quite a difference and would I think make the box far more sensitive, using the 100K that is.
Comments?
OK, I have done some more work with this unit today.
I connected it to the mic input of a mixing desk that also includes slider controls for amplification, I then took the output of that into the Line in of my Zoom H2 digital recorder.
At home, I found there was a dreadful lot of buzz and interference pickup.
So today I took the whole set up away to a woodland location and set up in the car.
I was amazed to be able to use full gain on the mixing desk, that's 10 where as at home I can't go above 4.
I then took two recordings, one with the device on the dash and one with it on the roof.
I applied a brick wall filter to remove some of the hum and a bit of hiss.
Then a custom continuous noise filter followed by a sectionalised gain increase.
I am very interested in these two time frames: 48s.6 and 1m-45s.6 where I hear the same phrase.
The phrase is present four more times but these two seem the best example.
Be great to hear your thoughts.
Just noticed that these were "different" uploads than what I had thought they were. I am downloading to see if I can hear anything. I don't know why he has changed the resister so much...seems as though 10K is plenty sensitive enough with the SW coming in at night. I don't get any kind of interferance where I am located. I thought once maybe I got some trouble from my cell phone. But I need to check again. Just a tiny-short "rushing" sound. I need to try it during all phases of the call and ending to be for sure. Could have been something magnetic through the sunspots though
Jim
EDIT: Talking about the 7th post.
Last edited on Mar 9th, 2011 08:27 PM by clockdryve
OK, I have done some more work with this unit today.
I connected it to the mic input of a mixing desk that also includes slider controls for amplification, I then took the output of that into the Line in of my Zoom H2 digital recorder.
At home, I found there was a dreadful lot of buzz and interference pickup.
So today I took the whole set up away to a woodland location and set up in the car.
I was amazed to be able to use full gain on the mixing desk, that's 10 where as at home I can't go above 4.
I then took two recordings, one with the device on the dash and one with it on the roof.
OK, I have done some more work with this unit today.
I connected it to the mic input of a mixing desk that also includes slider controls for amplification, I then took the output of that into the Line in of my Zoom H2 digital recorder.
At home, I found there was a dreadful lot of buzz and interference pickup.
So today I took the whole set up away to a woodland location and set up in the car.
I was amazed to be able to use full gain on the mixing desk, that's 10 where as at home I can't go above 4.
I then took two recordings, one with the device on the dash and one with it on the roof.
Seems that with the Diode Receiver that many of the voices will be very weak... But I am still very new to the Raudive recordings myself...and I HAVE found a few that could be easily amplified to understand them well. I will review more of your file now. I will need to continue for completion tomorrow, as it is about 11pm at the moment.
clockdryve wrote: Seems that with the Diode Receiver that many of the voices will be very weak... But I am still very new to the Raudive recordings myself...and I HAVE found a few that could be easily amplified to understand them well. I will review more of your file now. I will need to continue for completion tomorrow, as it is about 11pm at the moment.
Here I have taken this last example and ran it through a lowpass filter
(cutoff frequency of 1310Hz in Audacity-is what I use all the time)
Main thing I want to mention here is that the multiple "thumping" is something
that is OFTEN associated with many EVP captures...and you have a good example
in this area where the female voice is present. I didn't need to allow for the filter,
but I just included it here to make it easier on the ears.
You will not always hear this thumping though...but it is very common at times.
I suppose you might know these things....but if not---and for those that are NEW.
clockdryve wrote: clockdryve wrote: Seems that with the Diode Receiver that many of the voices will be very weak... But I am still very new to the Raudive recordings myself...and I HAVE found a few that could be easily amplified to understand them well. I will review more of your file now. I will need to continue for completion tomorrow, as it is about 11pm at the moment.
Here I have taken this last example and ran it through a lowpass filter
(cutoff frequency of 1310Hz in Audacity-is what I use all the time)
Main thing I want to mention here is that the multiple "thumping" is something
that is OFTEN associated with many EVP captures...and you have a good example
in this area where the female voice is present. I didn't need to allow for the filter,
but I just included it here to make it easier on the ears.
You will not always hear this thumping though...but it is very common at times.
I suppose you might know these things....but if not---and for those that are NEW.
Here you go Mike,
you've got another one...
This is (of all places) right after the 1st thump in your recording.
I hear "what ever you say". I missed it the fist time I listened but ran it through
a program called "Denoiser" that the DEMO version was offered to me by a Lady
from this forum...and it has a "special" CUSTOM setting (also sent to me)
that she said was directed to her by some of her spirit contacts.
What ever they told her to do has amazed me at times for sure...
After you hear these modified versions you might be able to pick it up
just slightly in the original capture just after the thump.
You might want to download and amplify. It is in there for sure.
Yep, I was thinking along the lines of a loop also...but I kept thinking more like the form of a "spiral" antenna (like used in some satellite reception), but I knew that
wasn't right.
Ive purchased some "sound powered" headphones from eBay....hoping that the large coils and balanced armatures will be helpful in amplification of the end results. Back to the coil...I think there is a guy (maybe called frank) online that has been experimenting with a couple coil forms over a ferrite rod. ??
Maybe you can focus a parabolic onto a " large coil" (many wraps of small wire). You could use a WOK lid as a reflector...many are using similar settup for wifi antennas.
But I don't know what actual frequencies the spirits are using to adjust for an efficient "parabolic" reflector. Some think the reason we get "weak" captures is because we are receiving the actual "harmonics" of their actual speech.
But that doesn't really sound right because I have received a few that were as loud or louder than my voice.
Last edited on Mar 10th, 2011 09:20 AM by clockdryve
Yep, looks good. Nice that you don't have interference out in the garden!! The more you try to record back there...the "hotter" the site will become. I know this from personal experience. And I have read that too. I had a very active (single) location in back yard of where I lived last year. "VERY" good location it became (I miss that place too). Haven't had time to listen to your STE-001 file yet. Really only found those few areas in the STE-000 (hope was the file name) *away on mobile phone right now. Heard a touch more in a few other places but I couldn't understand what was said. Truthfully...the ones I uploaded were extremely weak to hear. Will get to your other (recorded from the country-car) later on this evening when I get back home. Question: Do you ask questions (and wait 15 seconds at least for answers)...while you are recording with the Diode receiver? Have you tried using the H2 alone as a recorder "only" for your question (no diode connection)... Seems like often get better results when we associate with them. Talk later. Cheers
I regard this phase as very much a 'test' for both myself and the spirits.
So usually I simply request they draw near, I specify those that I am seeking and ask them to seek assistance their side to cause an impression.
All I ask for is confirmation they are there and to try and make an impression on the recorder system.
Yes I have used the H2 alone, its very sensitive and I once spent hours and hours cleaning a file only to find I had captured a dove some distance away LOL
This Clear Voice Denoiser, I tried the demo and quite like it, trouble is you can no longer buy it! does anyone here use the full version and ahem would not mind helping me get rid of the silly 30 sec max?
Off to bed now, Jim lets try and come up with a antenna that meets the criteria of minimal material yet better capture.
Looked over your file STE-001 and the only thing I could find was the voice of a small child...possibly a little girl of about 5 years old.
She seems to speak somewhere around 9 syllables... But I can't make out what she is saying.
Here voice is found in the original file at around 2.31 to 2.39 minutes, and can be heard on this upload at around 1 second to half past the 5 second mark. You might be able to hear the voice...but it's going to be very,very weak.
Just keep trying with the Diode Receiver and eventually your odds should improve.
Don't let it become a "job" though....keep your spirits light
I regard this phase as very much a 'test' for both myself and the spirits.
So usually I simply request they draw near, I specify those that I am seeking and ask them to seek assistance their side to cause an impression.
All I ask for is confirmation they are there and to try and make an impression on the recorder system.
Yes I have used the H2 alone, its very sensitive and I once spent hours and hours cleaning a file only to find I had captured a dove some distance away LOL
This Clear Voice Denoiser, I tried the demo and quite like it, trouble is you can no longer buy it! does anyone here use the full version and ahem would not mind helping me get rid of the silly 30 sec max?
Off to bed now, Jim lets try and come up with a antenna that meets the criteria of minimal material yet better capture.
Yea, I wish I had the full version of the Denoiser too.
But it works pretty good as a "final" approach to polishing up the EVP clip.
Or to be used where you hear the voice but can't quite make it out....
But it's not fool proof....some will not be able to be decoded using it....but a free try
And 30 seconds it usually more than enough to enhance a difficult EVP that has been clipped from the main recording....since they usually are only a few words in length.
While I'm thinking of it...here is one of my better captures using the Diode Receiver.
I have amplified it and looped to help hear it easier...it's definatly a female voice.
Kind of "eerie" in a way....because she asks "who are you"? ..... "were watching you"
But it isn't the part that says "were watching you" that is bugging me.....
It's the part where she says "who are you"??
Because I have had MANY voices from the Spirits and they already know my name
I looked over some new reading material on EVP"s. As a PDF file. I will get the link off pc later and forward it. It didn't have any directions or anything on this one subject...but it mentioned that it would be helpful in building a directional gain antenna to aid in possibly enhancing communications with the spirit world. Just kinda woke me up a bit. I just purchased another Raudive Diode Receiver last night on ebay. Cost of $15 including shipping!! Has a full aluminum 2 part case with 4 screws. That instrument I will be able to adjust for antenna's much easier. Only one channel though. Well gotta run for awhile. Good Day
clockdryve wrote: I looked over some new reading material on EVP"s. As a PDF file. I will get the link off pc later and forward it. It didn't have any directions or anything on this one subject...but it mentioned that it would be helpful in building a directional gain antenna to aid in possibly enhancing communications with the spirit world. Just kinda woke me up a bit. I just purchased another Raudive Diode Receiver last night on ebay. Cost of $15 including shipping!! Has a full aluminum 2 part case with 4 screws. That instrument I will be able to adjust for antenna's much easier. Only one channel though. Well gotta run for awhile. Good Day
Hi Jim
Can you post a internal pic of your new box?
Yes, a all metal case would be a real advantage, I am thinking of making one myself, I have a metal case needing a job.
$15 is far better than that other one, who still has not answered my emails!
I can't help thinking that the further we refine towards what should work for radio, the further we are moving away from what might work with spirit.
I have scanned the bands from 50 kHz to 1300Mhz since the 80's and never have heard a spirit voice (that I know)
What caught my eye was the inductor "coil" being used....
Looks like he is using a rather long antenna on this one.
Included also is that CD on Raudive Recordings also.
I don't think that external switch is connected. I will put a microphone on/off
momentary pushbutton switch on it anyway. And include a couple different types
of microphones...maybe actually use that switch for a full time microphone on option.
Maybe EVP require simply "passive" types of reception....as close to natural as possible...without any, or to much artificial filtering at the first point of contact. ???
A directional beam of some type might amplify if it (voice) is larger than a single point wave.
To much unknown right now ;)
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Yes that is a substantial coil by the looks of it!
Be most interested to hear the out put from this.
Can you do a close up of the coil and drop me the link for ebay?
Hi Mike, I'm no tech whiz by any stretch of the imagination, all I know is what I can hear and this clip is loaded. The very first clip you posted. So here is what I can hear in that clip. It is a very hard one so there is a lot I have missed as static.
First the loud thump/pop, .12, and I don't know when I can do that, .16 No problem guys I'll see you later, .24 you'll lead to it, .28 John Carson here, .32 Bobby, no one else can hear you, .35, I've been lonely, .40 Dad's with me, .43 Don't go there, Dad's not there. He's with me Junior, .50 Cathryn's there, I told you she went there Calvin, 1.00 I love you, I love you so much ______ to come and see you with your mother, 1.05 We're allright don't try to call, 1.06 I don't know the ______ life is, 1.11 Come on Gary how short their life is, 1.15 Do you want to be my friend, 1.20 She calls sometimes I'll take her, 1.26 perfect group????(not sure about that) 1.35 sounds like singing???? then I should have told you/her, 1.47 Wake up Joey/Joe he lies down here 1.52 Hey Punkin thats me but she doesn't know it, 1.59 Love you Mary.
Well there you go, see if you can hear any of that at all. There's a lot more stuff in there, I just couldn't hear it all. It overlaps as most of them do.
Amazing stuff and of course I am desperate for the 1.00 bit to be for me.
I just can't hear anything.
A lot of the things you hear seem to be American accented, which seems odd as I record here in the UK and have not US associations on the other side?
Please keep checking my files out when you have time, I am most grateful for the input.
No problem guys, (not used here in the UK much)
He's with me Junior, (never used in UK)
Wake up Joey/Joe, (uncommon name in UK)
Hey Punkin, ( nice but again not used in UK)
Bobby, (uncommon name, would be Bob here in the UK)
Sadly I can't link any of the names :-(
Hope this makes it clear about accents, not trying to be rude at all!
Mike
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I understand Mike! I only say what I hear and unfortunately I hear a lot. Why does it have to have an English accent or phrase? Couldn't you have picked up on something since it was going to be heard here? Who knows! Just an idea! I'd like to hear more of your stuff though! When you have time, post some more for me!
Believe it or not, I can hear Debbie twice in there. First Debbie, "then you're stupid" and Debbie again near the end. I'm sure that's probably not what you hear but there it is!
Thanks for posting Mike,
Debbie
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OK Debbie, I'd be most interested to hear what you can hear in this clip.
Sounds almost musical, its repeated once.
I listened to this one myself, and I have to admit that I don't hear anything resembling an evp. It reminds me of a computer generated sound file, almost like something one would hear when running a noise removal program.
Hi Mike, that clip does sound musical doesn't it? It's probably just noise but I hear things most people don't. Nice try though! I look forward to hearing others when you have time. Have a great day!
This picture is from ebay and only one provided. I haven't received the receiver yet...Just won it a few days ago. He doesn't ship very quickly for some reason....
I think he said something like 12 to 19 days after payment clears, that he will ship item. I was thinking that he gave that extremely long shipping time to cover himself from others complaining if he was a little late, but I read in his feedback that he is "slow". so don't know whats up with that.
Something new to mess with though and not very expensive. Besides the paypal has a refund if not received or another problem I guess.
Here is the best I can get for a picture (seller sent quickly)...received the Raudive Receiver today. I used a cell phone because I never use any other.
Kinda blurry as my old Blackberry Curve doesn't have micro settings.
I will need to add another picture as a "quote" to this message.
clockdryve wrote: Here is the best I can get for a picture (seller sent quickly)...received the Raudive Receiver today. I used a cell phone because I never use any other.
Kinda blurry as my old Blackberry Curve doesn't have micro settings.
I will need to add another picture as a "quote" to this message.
Close Up Of Coil (sorta)
This is 2nd "blurry" close up of the coil.
Well I guess this picture is about near identical to the first one.
I will get the Specs on the resister next time I open it again (soon).
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Yea, those are thick loops. I don't know the reason for that form...or if it was just what was available. I will see if I can get some information from the seller.
There's a Guy on eBay that's also selling something "kinda" like this...with crystal (stones) decorating it...and using $5 made up words to sell it for "thousands" of Dollars
He sales "Amulets" and Keychains with electronic parts leads "twisted" together and put into glass enclosures for hundreds of $$'s also. I bite my tongue when I see those...I have to watch my hands because part of me wants to email him on ebay......not good ;)
I forgot about the Spooky Radio. I'd like to build one.
I bookmarked the site. Thanks
You will see that they have tried a couple of three designs including the Raudive diode circuit.
In the Raudive project page you will notice that they plugged the circuit directly into what looks like a Behringer 802 mixer which gives them a measure of controlling things like gain, EQ and volume output. They even credit Keith and this forum for the initial circuit.
You will also see they tried an IR circuit. Clockdryve might find that circuit intresting.
However boys and girls…………..the main purpose of this post is to draw your attention to project #3: Diode Detector for EVP Recording
This circuit is pretty simple. They even provide a couple of examples for you to listen to. Remember to turn the volume down before clicking the play button.
Their Contact page contains several options in the event you desire further inquiry.
Thanks for the links, I have mailed them and hope they reply.
No luck yet here, I built my own version with a coil wound on a quartz crystal in case Pizo came into it.
I am not sure the diode method is going to be that successful!
I was doing a little more work with the diode box as seen in the video here today.
I noticed a very odd effect, it came when I held the left hand antenna of the box. Here in this clip you can hear what I mean. http://www.box.net/shared/84ypkrz05r
Now, I was outside with all battery powered equipment not near to any electrical things.