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 Posted: Feb 27th, 2011 08:35 AM
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You know David Thompson and some others seemingly beeing able / gifted to materialise spirits in full.

But what do they do with their gift? They use it like a circus attraction, travelling round the world and showing the event for more or less dollars. The few who are privilleged may have a change in their beliefs but the big mass of people will notb e reached.

I am confident there IS any materialisation medium out there hearing my call for assistance. I am with highly talented and trustworthy partners from most famous universities - we all believe in your talent and we believe in the topic. So we are interested in proving the world what is...

If there is anyone out there willing to work with us I and the whole rest of the world would worship this more than much. You may know the names behind this project but I cannot name the people here now. I hope you all understand.

We are all experineced people who know what we want to show to the rest of the world. This is no attempft to show fraudulent activities but the truth.

You wont earn a buck on helping us but you will be rewarded by knowing you changed the world significantly. If you are gifted AND ready to help us please drop me a line. I will be happy to tell you the walktrough and always be open to your opinions. We also would worship bvery much any hint where to find a medium talented and willing to help.

I am confident there are some of you hiding with their abiliyt instead of doing a show out of it. Sad to say the well knwon mat mediums refuse any collaboration and their reasons are  - for me at least not logic. But maybe some of them simply whorship the status quo. Who knows...

Any comments are welcome. Thank you.

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Hello,

Though your expressed interest is in working with "true" mediums and helping them impress the world with their abilities, what I feel is your true intent is not the same as your expression.

The first indication of this is that you make mention twice of "worship", yet everyone with any knowledge on the subject of people who are truly gifted and work with spirit is that "worship" is the utmost last thing on their minds or agenda. A truly gifted and/or respected medium works for the betterment of mankind, and places no emphasis on seeking or garnering worship.

The second indication is that your first and second sentences insult one of the presently known materialization mediums, something we don't do here, something quite contrary to the policy and etiquette of the forum.

The third indication is that, while you say you represent highly talented and trustworthy partners from most famous universities - there are 2 flaws here. The first is again, famous or not, gifted mediums are not necessarily drawn to work with people of fame. The second is this: it would be common for an educated person or person of expressed intent such as yours to use spell check, or at least ensure that they took the time to convey their meaning properly and clearly. This message was composed in a hurry, and does not convey the essence of higher learning that I would expect.

Sir,

If you are truly attempting to bring people forward to work with, who are truly gifted and desire to provide evidence of life after death using materialization mediumship, there are much better ways to do it. It would be best to first be honest, second - to not insult existing mediums, and third to provide discussion on your experiences with physical mediumship so we can have a basis to understand your request. If you truly seek proof, it will be given. Insults are not likely to produce that desired effect.

For now, this thread will stay open, but if negative replies are the outcome, it will not remain so. If someone that you seek who possesses the gift of mediumship desires to contact you, we would certainly desire you to have that opportunity. If that happens, then this thread will have served a useful purpose for you in your quest.

If you have attended a David Thompson seance (or other physical mediumship seance), please feel free to comment on it here. Your post indicates that you have personal experience with physical mediumship seances. If not, may I recommend that you do so. I have attended 4 myself, but have not yet written on it.

I wish you the best in your quest, and hope you find what you seek.

Thanks,

Keith


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Keith Clark wrote: Hello,

Though your expressed interest is in working with "true" mediums and helping them impress the world with their abilities, what I feel is your true intent is not the same as your expression.


OOO That may be because my abilities in foreign laguages are weak if it comes to different topics. I am sorry if there was a misunderstanding. :blushing:


The first indication of this is that you make mention twice of "worship", yet everyone with any knowledge on the subject of people who are truly gifted and work with spirit is that "worship" is the utmost last thing on their minds or agenda. A truly gifted and/or respected medium works for the betterment of mankind, and places no emphasis on seeking or garnering worship.


OOO I totally agree. That is why I am wondering and what I wanted to say. Imagine - beeing gifted like that  - wouldnt be your highest aim helping the world. I guess it would.

But my experiences with mediums I had were different. I am sorry to say. And sure I was disappointed by that. The ones I met and talked with were very focused on business. And as you say - I cannot think of soemone beeing blessed with that ability - having an insight in higher grounds and nevertheless beeing focused on banal things as fame and money.

Well. I do not know what was wrong by saying this. For sure I did not want to blame anyone in special. It was much more a question.

The second indication is that your first and second sentences insult one of the presently known materialization mediums, something we don't do here, something quite contrary to the policy and etiquette of the forum.

OOO Did I insult anyone. Well - that was not my aim again. I think there is a difference between beeing critical and wondering and blaming someone. I thank you for telling me my way of saying it was leading on a wrong way. I will have to take care on that. For sure I am not in the position or mood to insult anyone. That is completely the difference of what I want. So - anyone out there feling insulted - take my excuse for that.

The third indication is that, while you say you represent highly talented and trustworthy partners from most famous universities - there are 2 flaws here. The first is again, famous or not, gifted mediums are not necessarily drawn to work with people of fame. The second is this: it would be common for an educated person or person of expressed intent such as yours to use spell check, or at least ensure that they took the time to convey their meaning properly and clearly. This message was composed in a hurry, and does not convey the essence of higher learning that I would expect.

OOO Well, I really get my portion - ummm. :blink: May be the right way to treat me but I feel insulted as well a little  I have to say now. :( You sure agree the world would only believe results if they would be presented by well known and talented scientists. My english again? Can a talented and world known professor for a university not be famous - does that automatically have a bad touch?

Drawn to work with famous people? Well, if mediums appear on tv shows worldwide and set up cruise travels they for sure have no prolem with fame as they for themselves enter the stage. And well - for sure those people deserve belief and for sure the world would believe more if they would have partners from the so called rational side of the world. Well known scientists - usually known for not beeing into this topic. If they stand up and say "we have prove" - WOW.

I never said I am an important person. Never ever. I was just lucky and very happy sharing contact with some very talented and world known (for their talent and wisdom - better that way?) people. I bet if they would tell the world they have prove, they would get the attention that topic deserves. Actually only people listen who already believe in all of that. You hopefully agree it would be great if we could reach the rest of the world as well with the facts.

The only thing is. Those scientists are not willing to search the world for support. Dont ask me why. I talked to them may times and they said all their efforts on cooperation went to zero. They are frustrated. So call it a fools idea, I thought I may just cry for help. Anyone out there? Maybe a very spontaneous idea - and mabye senseless but well. I just wanted to help with my small means. Usually I get quite friendly answers and I was shocked on the re-posting. What did I do? But you may be right it was the wrong way how I started this time.

My spell check. Umm. Written in a rush. Well. I guess you agree speaking in foreign languages is sometimes not the easiest thing. You are right - I made mistakes - maybe a lot. But do not forget please this is a difficult topic and I am not "moving in my mother language". For sure you could say now: "then better leave it" - and seeing what I have caused here in your eyes I maybe should. But my aim was not a bad one and  I guess - fi you would have been willing a bit more giving me a chance you could have finally be able reading between my lines I am not a guy interested in a) wanting to cause trouble or b) insulting anyone or c) making the impression I am a person of importance (nono - sure I am not)

Okay. I end up. Saying sorry again for misled words. Wanted the best caused the worst maybe. It sure is a topic that drives me emotionally and maybe my words therefore sounded somehow too passionate. You cannot see inside me and knwo my history, but maybe by all justified criticism  - a bit more tolerance by my words as foreign person with not the best english would have been nice.

But yes. I have to learn a lot. If you "moved" in another language sometimes maybe you know there are easier things. And sometimes your words run the wrong way and arrive in a total wrong way.

Sir,

If you are truly attempting to bring people forward to work with, who are truly gifted and desire to provide evidence of life after death using materialization mediumship, there are much better ways to do it. It would be best to first be honest, second - to not insult existing mediums, and third to provide discussion on your experiences with physical mediumship so we can have a basis to understand your request. If you truly seek proof, it will be given. Insults are not likely to produce that desired effect.


Seems my whole posting looked like an insult. It was much more intened as a shout for help, maybe also a shout because I finally wonder so much this topic does not earn more attention. Also a shout of frustration beside the experiences I had and have been told by scientists willing to work with mediums and beeing rejected. (Again, I am jut a small flame) Well thats a long story and you see what I caused with my small posting. I fear - telling more on my latest experiences (which were a lot) would maybe even cause more trouble. Maybe I will have to work more on my english AND  - don't be angry please - stay on a forum where "critical words on actual living mediums" will not beeing judged as insultation but questions. I did not doubt the talent or gift of those people, I was just wondering and asking and feeling deeply sorry IT SEEMS as if they would not be willing to cooperate morewith scientists to proce what people like you and I already believe. That was my point (I actually hope I did not make another insultation).

Well. Well. Learned a lot. You may be right with your words and I will stop. Besides I never earned such a reaction on a posting - and it was not my plan. But if I made intolerable mistakes - as said  - very sorry for that.

For now, this thread will stay open, but if negative replies are the outcome, it will not remain so. If someone that you seek who possesses the gift of mediumship desires to contact you, we would certainly desire you to have that opportunity. If that happens, then this thread will have served a useful purpose for you in your quest.

Well if a bad start leads to a better follow-up - great. I doubt for sure. You said my words insulted people and my writing is full of mistakes. So I earned criticism on any base (from content to correct writing). I do not know if other people value that the same way and it was not planned that way. But you taught me a lot. So thanks for that.

If you have attended a David Thompson seance (or other physical mediumship seance), please feel free to comment on it here. Your post indicates that you have personal experience with physical mediumship seances. If not, may I recommend that you do so. I have attended 4 myself, but have not yet written on it.

I had many attendings like that. Yes. My english may be week if it comes to special topics - and I hope to improve  - but my experiences are widespread on that field. My highest respect goes to those people beeing mediums and I know they face a rough altutued from most people of the world. And what a great thing if they stand there like a rock anywhere for what they know and are. Without any doubt David Thompson and many others deserve highest respect. But nevertheless any topic to be discussed may allow also questions and critics - also from people who generally believe. I do believe and know what I saw but I still have questions and doubts on many things and hope they can be solved some day.

I wish you the best in your quest, and hope you find what you seek.

Thank you. Wishing you the best as well. May I ask why you did not write about your experiences on that topic. You said you had some? For sure this would enrich the topic.  Have a great day. I will keep calm now here as my last intention would be to affect anyone or seed mistrust or negatuve vibes into your forum. Sorry for that. Warmest regards.

Thanks,

Keith



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Hi,

My apologies, it would seem that perhaps my response was too heavy-handed and critical. Admittedly, it was, and your explanation of your language makes sense. Your words did come across in a way that did not appear to be positive, but provoking and critical. It would appear that my interpretation of your expression was incorrect, and for that I apologize. Your reply does indicate honesty.

I not only understand but also agree that there is much frustration on what seems to be the limitations of physical mediumship to prove life after death to the masses. (as well as some other methods) I think that will come one a more personal level, but still has to be one on one before it really takes hold and spreads. And I think the effect of physical mediumship is not very likely to be widely spread enough to do this alone.

I wish to discuss this with you more, but at the moment I must go. Please accept my offer of an apology for misunderstanding your intention.

Keith

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Thank you very much for your kind words. I was kind a shocked how my words caused misunderstanding. Be sure my aim comes from my heart and I am thankful for any answer and criticism. Your words enabled me to make clear what I meant - and what not.

To get back to the point. Yep, I had many experiences and yet there are hopefully more to come. I have been into circles as guest, as well as spend times with reincarnation specialists, I helped people from around the globe with evp recordings and talked to well known authors of books concerning the issues.

One thing always made me very happy. Even the well known people were always very kind and willing to talk to me. I share great contact with some of them and was gifted to get detailed information on their experiences. Again: I am just an ordinary guy - really only one out of the crowd but wow - what a pleasure and friendly act talking to me and sharing those emotions.

I have to say, by all my own experiences - meeting highly graduated scientists from world known universities tellig me how they made their own experiences that changed their rock-like altitude of a "just here and now" tunring into an "now and forever"  - believers  - by facts - not wishes - that was maybe the most fascinatiing and convincing thing ever. Something that even more convinced me than any flying objects, sounds, voices or ectoplasm apperances I was able to see myself.

Thats what I meant (and wanted to say). Those people who are true believers full of highest respect are passionately searching any medium that is willing to work with them to spread the message of an endless life to the world.

As said - I am no medium, and I am no scientist. I am just a small brick that hopes to make its small contribution forming a small piece of a step of huge solid stairs that lead to a knowledge anyone can join and be aware of. Even the smallest part of action may help and that was what I was intended to.

I wish you the best and hope my words did not again run into the wrong lanes. For sure I keep beeing sceptical and yes  - I am wondering on some gifted people. But for sure - who am I to understand everything and for gifted mediums acting as they do - they for sure will have their reasons. I may be allowed to wonder but not to judge on anyone. Not at all.

Warmest regards from me to you and everyone out there. :)

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Then we are truly of the same vibration. :)

I'll discuss my experiences some other time, I'm home sick today and not feeling too well...

Pleasure to meet you and I look forward to our future discussions!

Keith

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Get well soon my friend! Till then. :O)

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I am looking forward to reading more about everyone's experiences at physical mediumship sessions.  I would be very interested in attending myself, but there are no circles that I know of even remotely nearby, and it is true, as 'endlessky' mentioned, it costs a bit of money to go see David Thompson, for example, what with travel costs and session fees, etc. 

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I could reall write a lot. But you need to see it yourself. Even then you will partially be fascinated and partially conflicted with disbelief as there are things happen that are simply irrational.

Flying objects, ectoplams, materialisations, thats sometimes really too much to handle if your are confronted with it on first sight I can tell you. Your brain always says that is impossible. But for sure it is not.

The funny thing is we always talk about the SUPERNATURAL but thats a false expression. Its very natural. Its only us who are not familiar with those aspects of nature. A flying transport vehicle using the idea of aeronautic laws would have been spooky as well 200 ys before.

I bet in 200 ys we will not talk any more on supernatural. There is only one kind of nature but this one has two sides - the side we already know and the side we will need to learn about in the future. For sure aporcess that never stops.

Think about the not so old days. I remember people laughed about me while assuming there is life on other planets. Today, noone (or almost noone) would doubt that anymore.

Things change. And thats good to know. :)

If you have certain questions concerning the sitting experiences I am happy to talk about. You may also be fascinated by the SCOLE DVD as well as some books on that aspects. But again - its great to hear but much better to see. There are many mediums around us and circles arise everywhere in the world. I know some in the uk, germany as well as spain and the us area already. Some are even free of charge - what I worship very much as noone can dount their aims then if they really do it just for spreading the good news. You may find many online, some even with great websites and blogs talking about their experiences and experiemnts.

I may be wrong but it seems the other side has an increasing interest of letting us know there is MORE than just this wha we call life. Maybe they see how we concentrate more and more on the banal stuff, materialistic aims and start to loose any connection to love, help, belief. Do they want to help us getting back into the right direction?

I feel unsafe about that. But its a fact much is happening in this field and I am very happy about that.

:)

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Yes, the Scole information is fascinating.

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you should visit this site if not already done. lots of fascinating material.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOadcguides.com/afterlife28.htmOOOOOOOOOOOOO

please remove all OOOs at start and end. and youre done :)

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 I'm a sensitive and a rescue medium here In the UK, 1st my friend we have many things In common, I to believe we are not here to make a fortune from others miss-fortunes. I do very few 1-1 reads now as my path has led me away from readings, I generally read for those who have lost a child or friends that need closure and this has upset many local mediums by not charging for my services.
 My rescue work Is only ever based on expense's, as you can imagine It can be a costly thing, you can go from a simple cleansing which Is of very low cost, to full investigation which can run up quite a bill.

I feel I should give you a short insight In to my work and how I work.....

 I work with light, energy, psychometry, and voice vibration In general, the word GIFT or GIFTED however Is something I am not and It's my opinion neither Is anyone else, some of us have abilities that are tuned In to a different vibration than the masses no more know less, everyone Is physic. It's vanity and stardom many seek, both negative traits which can have major consequences when working In rescue work as many have found.

Distance may seem at first a problem but when dealing with energy It Is of little importance If the right tools are used, passed energy's or demonic forces do not have to be tied down by human limitations, time exists to life's clock not mans, distance just the same. We are earth bound spirits not the energy of a person that has not passed over, they are caught between vibrations often only one up from our own, demonic forces have an ability to jump from vibration to vibration, they are able to search out door ways opened often by want to be mediums or the general public who plays with things they can't begin to understand.

If you think I maybe able to help with an on-going issue or any future event please message me and I'll reply asap.

Paul.


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