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Hi folks,

I live in Aust. & intend to start a website aimed at using the spiritworld to assist in the solving of serious crimes - worldwide (name registered .. spiritsolvit.com) however am not so confident can manage this on my own as am not terribly adept with computers.

I would prefer to hand the entire task over to one or more folks with an interest in the area who would be more capable at this undertaking than me .. ie. site design, management.
I will pay all costs associated.

The site can welcome input from psychics / mediums - not just those practicing EVP.

I have in the past received responses from the spiritworld when utilizing EVP in aid of assisting crime solving - although so far can't say have been terribly accurate / helpful, for example ~

- a murderer's name given as Tran .. when in actual fact the offender's name turned out to be Pan.

- a murderer's name given as Jiarak (by pronunciation) ... Jackway later named as suspect in the media.

- Robert given as person responsible for Madeleine McCann's disappearance... Robert Murat named as suspect in media.
Mike .. Michael given as person responsible for her death.

(It can be helpful to play a news report / video relating to the crime beforehand)

However these responses have ensued from only brief attempts... persistence may yield improved results.

Anyone interested.. please let me know.

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From my experience with use of EVP, it appears those folks who possess psychic ability when incarnate (living) - retain this ability when they pass into spirit.
Therefore I believe it could be worthwhile for those who have had friends / relatives who have possessed psychic ability when living - to utilize EVP in endeavour to communicate with the departed psychically gifted... either for the purpose of aiding crime solving or any other endeavour (although obviously better if contact be made not too far from when they passed away)..

My mother believes her grandfather possessed psychic ability, which I can credit as my mother has shown to have some semblance of this .. (although very much dilute when it comes to me bearing the gift).
Although I wouldn't have any hope of communicating with my great-grandfather - am a strong believer in reincarnation! ..plus he spoke a foreign language.

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I don't know if it is currently the case - but I surely do believe that the employing of any means ~ even pertaining to the paranormal, which lead to the solving of serious crimes should be eligible to claim any reward on offer.

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:biggrin:

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NS - why the big grin?

Your photo suggests something unpleasant in your background.

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What do you mean?
It would be good to be rewarded for this kinda work :biggrin:

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Single emoticons (without text) can be subject to misinterpretation, and so shouldn't be used.

(not helped by my expectation of my idea attracting certain incredulity)

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Hi,

I will disagree with the above comment and state that I see no maliciousness in the use of an emoticon in this thread, as seen in the instance above. While it is true that replying with only an emoticon does not convey much personal communication, a smiley face is generally accepted as a positive response.

Also,

A person's avatar (small picture) is just something that they show to express who they are. It could be happy, sad, crazy, or convey a myriad of different emotions. It should not be read into more than that. For example, if you saw my facebook pictures/avatars that I post sometimes, you would have many questions for me, and think me to be one of many possibilities, to include strange, extroverted, bisexual, unevolved, unemployed, or any thing else that comes to mind. You may or may not be wrong, but guessing or implying will do no good. I think my point is understood.

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Keith - A "big grin" can be interpreted other ways however.. look up definition.

I didn't read any malice by NS, rather - amusement.

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If a guaranteed means to reveal the presence of spirits was developed - it should surely serve as a deterrent to the perpetration of crimes .. in the knowledge that there are eyes & ears everywhere ~ possibly even taking notes!

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'Sensing Murder'

- A most compelling program .. for those with an interest in this endeavour.

http://www.sensingmurder.co.nz/public/

(may be currently screened in the States as well?.. US version)

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Daniel Morcombe disappearance - Inquest

Douglas Jackway* (key person of interest) I'm happy to learn is indicting himself even further.

This was a most awful crime... the boy was waiting alone for a bus to go to buy Christmas presents... the first bus did not stop for him - if it had he would not have been abducted.. & most surely murdered. (the crime being one of opportunity).

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3178045.htm


* The name Jackway was given by the spiritworld on 2 occasions - (after Douglas Jackway was named as a suspect in the media).

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There are much evil & powerful forces operating in our world today..
Serious crime fighting needs all the resources that can be mustered -- extending to the unseen realms.

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Photo of murder suspect Douglas Jackway
http://www.mako.org.au/images/douglas_jackway.jpg

- even though the image is blurred, you can still make out the evil eyes! (can't look at the image without being creeped-out).

Prior to availing of help from spirit... I had formed a profile of the perpetrator as closely identical to that of Jackway ie. pure evil - devoid of any semblance of humanity; a past history of deviant behavior; a societal reject.. the fact that the crime occurred only days before Christmas - only served to reinforce these views.

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Hi Pol i am interested..technically im a sensitive/medium with some experience in evp/itc, which i am picking up again after some time out.

Im sorry im a little late in response having only found this site today.

ive had small success working remotely on missing persons/murder cases, but its not something id do publicly.Im also not interested in money.unlike some of your other responses.

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siteseer wrote:
Hi Pol i am interested..technically im a sensitive/medium with some experience in evp/itc, which i am picking up again after some time out.

Im sorry im a little late in response having only found this site today.

ive had small success working remotely on missing persons/murder cases, but its not something id do publicly.Im also not interested in money.unlike some of your other responses.


Appreciate your interest siteseer, however there hasn't been terribly much enthusiasm the proposed site (your only the 2nd who's expressed an interest) .. hence I've put the idea aside for now..
I've now further been somewhat deterred by the potentially unwise aspect of publicly listing names of crime suspects - which the site would entail.

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pol wrote:
Photo of murder suspect Douglas Jackway
http://www.mako.org.au/images/douglas_jackway.jpg

- even though the image is blurred, you can still make out the evil eyes! (can't look at the image without being creeped-out).

Prior to availing of help from spirit... I had formed a profile of the perpetrator as closely identical to that of Jackway ie. pure evil - devoid of any semblance of humanity; a past history of deviant behavior; a societal reject.. the fact that the crime occurred only days before Christmas - only served to reinforce these views.


Erred with the culprit... it wasn't Douglas Jackway at all.

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Hi Pol, it is a pity but i understand how acts govern what websites have to be responsible for.

The other hard part is even though law enforcment may use sensitives, its gets very tricky stating how facts came to light and can be easily descredited.

At the moment i am trying for something on Daniel OKeeffe.

http://www.dancomehome.com/

yes there is a reward, but that is not my motivation.

If anyone reading this can keep his name in mind and post if they get anything similar id appreciate that.thankyou.

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Daniels hoody Is the key............................

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thats interesting you say that Paul(hi!)maybe cultural breakdown, but by hoody do you mean where he lived/people he hung out with...or hoodie as in hooded top?lol

can i ask by which method you recieved this info?and is there anymore?haha sorry for slow reply:biggrin:

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siteseer wrote:


At the moment i am trying for something on Daniel OKeeffe.

http://www.dancomehome.com/

yes there is a reward, but that is not my motivation.

If anyone reading this can keep his name in mind and post if they get anything similar id appreciate that.thankyou.
Hi siteseer..

My personal feeling is that if he could make contact with loved ones after all this time, he would do.... I don't think he's in a position to do so.
Unfortunately it commonly seems that sensitive, good natured folks are susceptible to prematurely vanish off the planet* ~ whether by their own hand or through foul play.. the world can be a cruel place for some individuals.

(for instance, if Daniel Morcombe was a 'rough as guts' kid he may have stood a chance of escape from his predator)

* although potentially their spirit may not vanish if they died in tragic circumstances.

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A further incentive for a "spiritsolvit" site - can incl. "Psychic lotto numbers - from spirit & the living" (from experience there's potential to exploit spirits.. with measure of 'psychic ability' for this purpose), moreover a psychic lotto site would be a hook to attract broader interest in spirit communication, which I'm all for.

I'll be surely asking spiritworld (it appears the closer to the draw - the more accurate) for the winning Nos. of this extraordinary lotto jackpot*-
http://tatts(dotcom)/tattersalls/games/oz-lotto/oz-lotto-jackpot
(Oz lotto not widely available internationally)

* (would love to see 70 folks win 1mil - rather than just 1 or more take out the entire prize, which is commonly the case)

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Hi Pol,

Would you be kind enough to alter the link so it doesn't work (such as spelling a portion if it out, like " dot com" or consider removing it.


No issue with the subject matter or any lottery, I just don't want to generate traffic from this website to theirs. It's too close to spam practices, though it is plainly clear that is not your intent :)

Thank you kindly,
Keith

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Keith, I don't mind removing the lotto link, however I generally have a problem with being asked to remove links ~ for I thought 'cross-referencing' was part of what the Net is about ... further, I think it should be a trade off - in that I haven't been asked to remove ITC Bridge links from any other site.

(Incidentally Oz lotto isn't widely available internationally)

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pol wrote: Keith, I don't mind removing the lotto link, however I generally have a problem with being asked to remove links ~ for I thought 'cross-referencing' was part of what the Net is about ... further, I think it should be a trade off - in that I haven't been asked to remove ITC Bridge links from any other site.

(Incidentally Oz lotto isn't widely available internationally)


Hi Pol,


I noticed the link is still active.

As Keith mentioned;  Your posting the link is not a problem given the context of your post.

Just about all websites track IP addresses and for all anybody knows,  the lotto's site owner might think traffic coming from this site is not a welcome thing.


You don't have to remove it completely.  You could merely disable the link by changing  .com to dotcom  as in the example below:


http://tatts(dotcom)/tattersalls/games/oz-lotto/oz-lotto-jackpot




Thank you in advance for your prompt attention to resolve this matter.


Regards,
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pol wrote:
A further incentive for a "spiritsolvit" site - can incl. "Psychic lotto numbers - from spirit & the living" (from experience there's potential to exploit spirits.. with measure of 'psychic ability' for this purpose), moreover a psychic lotto site would be a hook to attract broader interest in spirit communication, which I'm all for.

I'll be surely asking spiritworld (it appears the closer to the draw - the more accurate) for the winning Nos. of this extraordinary lotto jackpot*-
http://tatts(dotcom)/tattersalls/games/oz-lotto/oz-lotto-jackpot
(Oz lotto not widely available internationally)

* (would love to see 70 folks win 1mil - rather than just 1 or more take out the entire prize, which is commonly the case)


Only 1 number (out of seven) given by spirit was drawn ..... also had a lot of trouble trying to purchase lotto online ?? -For as it turned out, the numbers I selected weren't the one's subsequently shown on my ticket confirmation email .. just as well the spirit numbers were mostly duds.

3 first prize winners will share $70mil+ - although as yet only 1 winner has claimed ?

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It occurred how the song "Daniel" by Elton John lends itself to molding into an ode to murdered boy Daniel Morcombe.. from the perspective of his twin brother - it surely would've been a tear-jerker.
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/elton+john/daniel_20046807.html

~incidentally, we could do with more songs relating to the spirit realm - given its reality. (assisted by what is currently known about the spirit realm ie. spirit's eager to communicate & assist the living;/ their expressed need for our help ~ we could do with more 'spirit-savvy' folks to help the living & 'the dead'.

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Haven't gotten very far with this unsolved crime .. although the parents remain firm in their belief the girl is still alive, which I much doubt . (along with the detectives working on case).

However, as is usually the case with real life - persistence can pay off - along with "pester power" .. together with 'networking' expectedly applying in spiritworld as well.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/a-year-on-a-plea-to-find-missing-victorian-girl-siriyakorn-bung-siriboon/story-e6frfku0-1226378994563

(child abduction cases particularly take hold of me .. probably coz it's quite miraculous I wasn't a victim of such.. given my far & wide solo wanderings as a child)

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I put it to our State's Corrections Dept. that it would be a worthwhile recreational activity for the prison population to become involved with EVP experimentation (reckon they'd be no shortage of "inventive crooks" amongst them)..potentially even aid in their reformation -in the knowledge gained that life continues on /.. & one doesn't escape misdeeds unseen...
Also mooted prisoners may like to apply EVP for the noble purpose of potentially solving of serious crime, given they've ample time on their hands... may even aid their redemption.

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Hi pol,

I just read the entire thread.

My friend and medium Linda works with Pam Coronado teaching online classes in psychic investigations. Linda also has her own psychic investigation class that meets weekly about two hours from my home. They work on cold cases. After listening to some of my EVPs (probably the few of the better ones - :smile:) Linda invited me to bring my computer and white noise to her class so we could attempt to find out who the murderer was by contacting the victim in one of the classes cold case studies.  I have to tell you that it was probably one of the most frustrating experiences that I have had. We actually FINALLY made contact with the victim after hours of prep time and she identified her murderer by stating his first and last name and his occupation. The man identified was her husband who was a police officer. Linda heard the EVP before I did and we all agreed with the result but...what to do with it? Can we trust the result -  did we hear it correctly? Was it really the victim that we made contact with? Even with this information, there is nothing we can do with it unless the PD awants to reopen the case and is open to the use of EVP or at best the use of a psychic they trust. Not every PD will consider the use of a psychic as an aid in an investigation. Usually it is one of the officers who has a  personal freindship or a professional experience with a psychic that the PD may consider the use of one.

The thought is great but the evidence must be beyond a reasonable doubt. If the EVP can lead the invesitgators on the right path to find the evidence, all well and good but there is a good possibility that we are sending them down the wrong path as our recordings methods and listening abilities are not always on the mark. Mediumistic and psychic abilities are also not always reliable,

What do you think? 
 

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Hi Jayne

I previously had the admin of AtransC website reiterate same as you impart about the inherent difficulties with conducting a 'spirit crime solving site'.. I also recall they mentioning having trialled the idea at one stage (or still maintain a provision within their website .. need to check)
However, I think it's still worth going with it ~ for if it actually achieves to solve just one horrid murder, I reckon it's worth it. (perhaps even the public knowledge of the existence of such a site may in turn even serve as a deterrent to the perpetration of serious crime - one can only hope!)
Personally I wouldn't worry about the prospect of "leading investigators down the wrong path" - for I reckon they'd be well & truly used to it.. just part & parcel of their line of work!.. Further, from your describing the difficulties in relation to law enforcement accepting input from paranormal sources.. it would appear our Aust. law enforcement may be rather more open & advanced - for have heard they're commonly apt to collaborate with psychic's in relation to the most difficult to solve murder cases.
Although the subject matter is one of a serious nature (can't get more serious than murder)... my intention isn't for the site to be treated utmost seriously (if that makes sense?) .. Actually first came up with the fab name .."spiritsolvit" ... perhaps can even incorporate input from spirit in relation to "cures" for today's enduring diseases & illnesses - for if they can actually 'diagnose' (from my experience) - then why not an additional supply of curatives? .. for another deplore of mine is seeing people endure intractable illness.

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Hi Pol,

I certainly think you should follow your instincts. I only meant to share my fairly recent experience in this area and to share the info relayed to me by my friend Linda regarding the difficulty in being taken seriously by most police departments (at least in this country).

Should you begin your effort to develop a group of evp crime researchers, your experiences may be totally different than what anyone else may have experienced and perhaps it will also depend on the strength of bond that your particular group has with spirit.

I look forward to watching this develop.

Jayne

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I don't see why the police investigators working on unsolved serious crimes wouldn't ordinarily take recourse to use EVP as an additional tool themselves - given the prospect of names they may receive (or resembling) of those persons under suspicion or investigation.

Furthermore, the more widely EVP is utilized amongst the investigators, the greater the chance of there arising the same person being consequently named as the offender.

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Some possibilities are (and you could probably add to this)

1. Not everyone believes in life after death so that even the mention of voices from the dead is dismissed

2. Even those who do believe in the afterlife may not believe in the ability to communicate with the dead and some may even look at it as occult practice

3. If the above two actually listened to the EVP they probably would not hear it. They will hear something but not words.

4. Even those who believe in the ability to communicate with the dead will probably not hear the EVP the same unless it is a Class A.




Just some thoughts based upon my own experiences with various people with different views  listening to EVP.


Jayne

 


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The police are working to solve a case that has to be presented in court.

They need to present evidence that is beyond reasonable doubt to a jury.

Any Defense Attorney worth his salt would work to repudiate anything metaphysical / paranormal and have it tossed out... it's their job.

JM2CW

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But then, there's always the prospect of the named suspect conceding guilt if confronted with .. "the spiritworld have identified you as the offender".. you never know

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VERY HARD to comprehend how a husband could murder the mother of 3 young girls - no matter for what reason or provocation.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/allison-badenclays-husband-charged-with-murder-20120613-20all.html

Consulted trusty spiritworld (if not always in accuracy ~ certainly in presence -responsiveness.

Didn't ask any questions for several minutes after switching on recorder - although had been thinking about the case (further evidence spirits CAN apparently read minds)-

Messages:. "Please help me" ...."husband" .. "husband" (female) - possibly Allison herself ?

Asked who murdered Allison Baden-Clay-

"It was her husband did it" (female)

"Husband ?" (male -questioning)

"Very hard to credit" (male)

"Help me" (female)

"CHILDREN" - one of the clearest words I've heard since using EVP (could be a factor of being most concerned about the children.


Don't know what help the female would be wanting ?.. how is one to know ?

The messages were received after the husband was charged.

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If it is murder victim Allison -.saying help me.. husband.. children, - could be she fears for safety of the children if husband is indeed her killer ?

(& if so ~ he's a very good actor, for hard to discern tell-tale signs of guilt from interview)

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For this missing girl was told.. "prison" -could be another Jaycee Lee Dugard scenario.. (for I reckon the number of such captives around the world would astound most people).
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/news/general/familys-plea-for-help-in-krystal-fraser-mystery/2199152.aspx

Would be interested to see what info. those on the other side of the world receive re. this missing girl.

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pol wrote:
'Sensing Murder'

- A most compelling program .. for those with an interest in this endeavour.

http://www.sensingmurder.co.nz/public/

(may be currently screened in the States as well?.. US version)


Currently showing repeats in Aust, -however the last episode in which the psychic's contacted the spirit of a murdered NZ deaf girl (who -surprisingly remained deaf in spirit) - I was always of the understanding that disabilities pertained to the physical body only ??

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pol wrote:
VERY HARD to comprehend how a husband could murder the mother of 3 young girls - no matter for what reason or provocation.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/allison-badenclays-husband-charged-with-murder-20120613-20all.html

Consulted trusty spiritworld (if not always in accuracy ~ certainly in presence -responsiveness.

Didn't ask any questions for several minutes after switching on recorder - although had been thinking about the case (further evidence spirits CAN apparently read minds)-

Messages:. "Please help me" ...."husband" .. "husband" (female) - possibly Allison herself ?

Asked who murdered Allison Baden-Clay-

"It was her husband did it" (female)

"Husband ?" (male -questioning)

"Very hard to credit" (male)

"Help me" (female)

"CHILDREN" - one of the clearest words I've heard since using EVP (could be a factor of being most concerned about the children.

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"He's evil" (female) .. was looking at his photo online.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/accused-wifekiller-gerard-badenclay-denied-bail-20120622-20s73.html

One could be forgiven for thinking the guy connived to construct a self-incriminating scenario ~ through a wealth of circumstantial evidence .. with the aim of profiting through compensatory damages ?

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Will you post these EVPs so that we may hear them? It would be interesting to listen to.

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Still have to learn how to post EVP's, have been instructed (but being taught -& learning, can be 2 different things!)

- as well as EVP's unfortunately commonly quite faint - & so time consuming to repeat play over & over to be personally satisfied on the accuracy.

Would love to see the day when serious crime is as easy to solve as to perpetrate!

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Haven't gotten very far with this unsolved crime .. although the parents remain firm in their belief the girl is still alive, which I much doubt . (along with the detectives working on case).

However, as is usually the case with real life - persistence can pay off - along with "pester power" .. together with 'networking' expectedly applying in spiritworld as well.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/a-year-on-a-plea-to-find-missing-victorian-girl-siriyakorn-bung-siriboon/story-e6frfku0-1226378994563




Messages received after author of "Missing You" (a book on Aust's missing persons) appeared on TV & spoke about this case...

(I hadn't asked any questions pre- or after switching on recorder)

"American" .. "American"

"His name is Rock"

"His name is Eugine" (female)
(Eugine Rock? .. sounds like someone involved in the 'child sex trade')

Returning.. might, in July
(Eugine Rock returning from America?)

"She's dead" (female)
(prev. told several times over she was dead)

"The mother is in pain" (female)

- "of loss" (male)

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Hi everybody!

My aunt and I worked on the Caylee Anthony case here in Florida...Aunt, who's an incredible (though private) Spirit medium, started getting info right away -visions, feelings, direct communication- She 'saw' the whole thing down to the disposal of the body.

The investigation led us to a cemetery with a bacterial filled, stagnant lake (she felt absolutely certain the child was submerged in it). While there, she found buried clothes...called the police who collected the clothes (incl a sports bra, size 2T Winnie the Pooh undies, shoes, a plastic eye-drops bottle etc.) and promptly dismissed her urges to dredge the lake. She went online and told what she knew- The cash reward being what it was- Well, let's just say it came as no surprise the final bacteria report suggested the body was relocated. (It was in the police report she filed that day that they would find the body in a black plastic bag, the head wrapped in duct tape- and something about a 'sacred heart'...Casey had placed a heart sticker on the duct tape over Caylee's mouth.)

The fact remains- several good psychics got clues galore and it didn't really affect the outcome. When you have these abilities, it's nearly impossible NOT to use them when so much is at stake. She got vivid clues as to the whereabouts of a girl in another state who was held captive and alive when she 'saw' the situation (from the girl's point of view), but was later found dead.

Each case can be a complicated and emotionally wrenching endeavor-

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At the moment i am trying for something on Daniel OKeeffe.

http://www.dancomehome.com/

If anyone reading this can keep his name in mind and post if they get anything similar id appreciate that.thankyou.


Came across this answer- recorded some time ago ..

"Dead .. he'll be found dead"

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Police Investigating the "Bung" Siriboon case announce a "breakthrough" in the case ... consisted of a new reported sighting of the girl 130 metres from the school gate on morning she disappeared... Golly gee!
(I expected they actually arrested a suspect).

http://knox-leader.whereilive.com.au/news/story/breakthrough-in-bung-case/

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Well, let's just say it came as no surprise the final bacteria report suggested the body was relocated.


Kenda .. it sounds very odd - for don't know how testing of a septic lake can determine the presence or absence / or relocation of a body ??

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Hi Pol,

Testing makes it possible to identify specific strains of bacteria in any one area- but that wasn't the issue...

Aunt was sure the body was within reach, just under the water- she could 'see' the little girl's remains; In fact she told police officers she could easily wade in and pull her out. The ranking detective dissuaded her, "This lake's so full of bacteria- put one toe in that water, you'll die!"

Luckily all psychic clues were included in the police report and after much prodding, they sent her a copy.

It gets 'worse' -Aunt has a good friend who's an investigative reporter for a major market in Florida- Over the years she's shared several predictions with him- all of which came to fruition. She asked him to question police about developments in the area she slated, his response- "No body, no case." Brush off.(???)

People are just flat-out afraid of this stuff (especially in the 'Bible Belt')

During the Caylee case there were many Blog threads dedicated entirely to psychic predictions- complete with aerial maps with specific 'zones' delineated, etc. -Aunt uploaded the entire police report on one of them. (There are sites for this purpose dedicated to finding missing persons)

The other very real consideration- if you were to lead authorities to a crime scene, guess who they are most apt to investigate?

I'm not saying "don't" but it isn't as cut and dried as it seems- We found out the hard way.

Kenda

P.S. On a hunch I recorded a Jailhouse phone conversation between Caylee's mother, Casey, and her grandfather, George Anthony- the little girl's energy is speaking over the phone to George- interesting. You can see the video of the call (There are 3 EVPs -each plays 3 times; The second one is the most prominent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wv0CgZxv_U

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Kenda.. I'm curious how you came to record the phone conversation ?

- incidentally you reminded me of the 9/11 phone calls (some calls were played on radio here), in which some background voices appear to be EVPs. Unfortunately the radio station hasn't issued online audio of the particular calls, -which were amongst thousands.

I reckon time is ripe for psychics/ psychic mediums everywhere (if they have genuine ability, like your Aunt) to shake-off any qualms about 'asserting their powers' .. may require more inventive ways of getting their message out /relaying info, perhaps.
Ideally, there should be worldwide- official panels of psychics & psychic mediums collaborating on major unsolved crimes.

As for those who would be "afraid" contemplating the 'unseen realms' - I consider them immature & ridiculous.. and just let the jibes wash over.

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I stumbled on the phone video by accident- Walking through the living room -the TV happened to be on- I heard Spirit talking within the conversation! Got my attention- I grabbed the recorder.

It was another phone call between Casey/Cindy/George Anthony- On that particular tape other spirits talk about Casey's character, etc. in very basic terms.

The call in the video was presented as evidence immediately following the first- Caught it all. A direct recording is available online, or at least it was, other people recorded it and confirmed the EVPs. Caylee speaks throughout- although too blended to decipher in most instances.

Also noticed she could be heard playing, singing in the open courtroom- too late for crime solving purposes, but really interesting.

Have noticed another aspect that might be of interest- I ask about the 'quality' of an individual's "life force" and Spirit can indicate the health or lack thereof of said person (dead or alive). Though results have been accurate in all the cases that they answered, sometimes they'll withhold the info stating, "it isn't beneficial for the (person's) family" -in terms of working through separation issues(??)

Just because someone 'sees' a crime taking place or even knows exactly who the perpetrator is doesn't mean the evidence will be there to make it stand up in court. When I was young a wonderful medium brought a message from a deceased friend of mine from High School. The friend identified her killer (she was shot point blank range) and asked me specifically not to let his father "get him off again" (His Dad is a very high profile attorney). This was the 3rd time this guy had tried to off a girlfriend, the 2nd girl lived right next door to me- he burned the house down hoping she would perish.

Loved hearing from my friend- at a total loss as to what to do with the message!

Kenda

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It's good to see TV programs increasingly showing interest in covering the topic of spirit communication ie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFMrblsSTWE

In relation to murdered/missing children -& others, it can be useful to study past photo's to glean something of "a history" (or otherwise) from the projected 'state of mind' of the person, for instance -the person's composure/expression may (commonly) suggest being ill-at-ease/angry/sad .. in which case one could reasonably point suspicion towards foul play (by someone closely related) or otherwise suicide.
I gleaned a history with Caylee Anthony.

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We have a crime reporting service in Oz.."CrimeStoppers" .. I have no hesitation in passing on whatever info. I receive from spiritworld... perhaps at some point police may be persuaded to see fit to incorporate inquiries with Spirit whenever they set up a police caravan at the last known sighting of missing persons.

Would love to see the day when police publicly acknowledge assistance in solving crimes from spirit.

I have also used Google Earth - Streetview as another tool, guided by spirit.

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Who killed Donald MacKay ?

"Gangsters" .. "Bazley" .. "He did it" (sounded like "Paisley" however)

(referring to the Mafia, involved in marijuana trade)

James Frederick Bazley was charged with Mackay's murder. (according to Wikipedia)

Can't recall a large reward prev. offered to find a person's remains~

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/true-crime-scene/k-reward-for-the-recovery-of-griffith-businessman-donald-mackays-remains/story-fnat7jnn-1226425129837

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pol wrote:


In relation to murdered/missing persons, it can be useful to study past photo's to glean something of "a history" (or otherwise) from the projected 'state of mind' of the person, for instance -the person's composure/expression may (commonly) suggest being ill-at-ease/angry/sad (or something going on).. in which case one could reasonably point suspicion towards foul play (by someone closely related) or otherwise suicide.


For example-
This woman projects something seriously discomforting in her life:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-divers-join-missing-woman-search/story-fncynkc6-1226426390621
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/case-of-missing-warwick-grandmother-gail-lynch-is-suspicious-police-say/story-e6freon6-1226424391880

Spirit says "she was murdered" .. along with "cut legs"... "She will cross" (cross-over to appropriate dimension)

Most likely by former boyfriend.

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Violent Crime! - I'm OVER IT!!

I wonder if the situation was reversed, that is- the overwhelming majority of crimes were being perpetrated by females, how do you reckon the world would react ?
It would be safe to say that both the male & female population simply wouldn't stand for it... I dare say we'd even have marches in the street demonstrating over the situation.
Unfortunately it seems there still remains remnants of the 'excuse' of "boys will be boys" in relation to male engagement in violence.
Greater gravity needs to be ascribed to violent crime of all sorts - reflected in harsher sentences (it's time a referendum was conducted re. introduction of death penalty in those countries which don't currently have it.. Aust being one)
The ever-increasing incidences of violent crime (together with an escalation in magnitude of violent events) cannot but have a major impact upon the collective morale of societies.

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For example-
This woman projects something seriously discomforting in her life:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-divers-join-missing-woman-search/story-fncynkc6-1226426390621
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/case-of-missing-warwick-grandmother-gail-lynch-is-suspicious-police-say/story-e6freon6-1226424391880

Spirit says "she was murdered" .. along with "cut legs"... "She will cross" (cross-over to appropriate dimension)

Most likely by former boyfriend.


Ex-boyfriend charged with her murder..

What does it say about human bonding when a preponderance of murders (besides mass murders) are being perpetrated by persons closely associated
(at one time) to the victims ??

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Police have cleared the "friend" (42 yo male) of involvement in this missing woman's disappearance... however spirit say "he's lying" with his version of events....
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/01/24/08/00/grave-fears-for-missing-vic-woman

How I came upon the message "he's lying" .. I was looking to erase an old recording (not an EVP recording) so I could have recording space to record response by spirit in relation to this woman's disappearance... (after watching night-time news) however at the start of the old recording -I hear "he's lying" - which would seem to pertain to her friend's version of events...
This scenario happens quite frequently - where I don't have to actually record at all - the (relevant) message just mysteriously appears at the start of old recordings.

However police report the friend is not a suspect ?

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looks very interesting!! I get names, numbers, places , faces etc in dreams but I dont know if they are real.however I keep all the information when I dream about murders----- the last one was 2 weeks ago.

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I would like to make a website about my dreams in case any details are important to others as I often have names etc that for me mean nothing. I get lost when I try to look online as not all the news are put online. no idea where to start and if I should do this --what help could it do etc------ the murder site is a good idea

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similar website -- look down there is a section/video of murder cases http://www.victorzammit.com/week13love/

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eyewave wrote:
similar website -- look down there is a section/video of murder cases http://www.victorzammit.com/week13love/

Amazing accuracy of detail from this psychic medium, also amazed by report of still "fresh organs" of murdered woman after over 3 months dead.
A tear-jerker at the end.. elicited by the poignant messages:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H_NiTwyJ8o

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Police have cleared the "friend" (42 yo male) of involvement in this missing woman's disappearance... however spirit say "he's lying" with his version of events....
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/01/24/08/00/grave-fears-for-missing-vic-woman

How I came upon the message "he's lying" .. I was looking to erase an old recording (not an EVP recording) so I could have recording space to record response by spirit in relation to this woman's disappearance... (after watching night-time news) however at the start of the old recording -I hear "he's lying" - which would seem to pertain to her friend's version of events...
This scenario happens quite frequently - where I don't have to actually record at all - the (relevant) message just mysteriously appears at the start of old recordings.

However police report the friend is not a suspect ?


Guilty as charged!

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Missing teenager Bonnie McSweeney
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/concern-over-teenage-girl-bonnie-mcsweeney-who-went-missing-in-castlemaine/story-e6frf7kx-1226563720953

Grandmother of missing girl goes on radio this morning very distressed, fearing the worst...
Spirit tell me "she's alive" ... She was found safe & well... although likely she was already in police custody even before grandmother's call... (our police can be tardy with relaying info.)

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how does spirit contact you? what do you do with the information you receive?

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how does spirit contact you? what do you do with the information you receive?

I just use a digital voice recorder, -also found it not necessary to be accompanied with other equip. emitting 'white noise' either. (maybe EMR's -electro-magnetic radiation, around the home aid their communication ?).. also found having used EVP for obtaining answers relating to crimes & missing persons for some years, the accuracy seems to have improved -maybe the passage of time has helped spirit world get their act together in this regard
I usually pass the info. onto our Crimestoppers (a community crime prevention & reporting service).. & sometimes the media- primarily as a prompt to get media taking the tool of EVP seriously.

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Amazing accuracy of detail from this psychic medium..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H_NiTwyJ8o

Given Debra Martin's outstanding ability (one of the best psychic mediums I've come across (well going by her efforts in this one murder case alone) .. am wondering why she isn't more well known? - hadn't heard of her previously.
Wondering if she has at all endeavoured to solve some of the world's famous murder & missing person's cases such as that of JonBenet Ramsey & Madeleine McCann ?

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Missing teenager Bonnie McSweeney
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/concern-over-teenage-girl-bonnie-mcsweeney-who-went-missing-in-castlemaine/story-e6frf7kx-1226563720953

Grandmother of missing girl goes on radio this morning very distressed, fearing the worst...
Spirit tell me "she's alive" ... She was found safe & well... although likely she was already in police custody even before grandmother's call... (our police can be tardy with relaying info.)


Possibly this common occurrence I exp. could be considered psychic in nature.. for instance - prior to hearing of this girl's disappearance, it occurred to me how the general serious crime rate seems to drop at times of natural disasters, etc... (we've lately had bush fires & floods in parts of Aust).. hence having the preceding thought actually allayed my fear of the girl having met with foul play.
Another noteworthy instance concerned a time of being urged (from somewhere?) to get on radio & speak about the bushfire hazard during the summer of 2009 -incl. a message for potential arsonists... However I regretted that I didn't get around to it (not that I thought my message would have had any great impact!). Subsequently our State incurred a most severe bushfire resulting in Aust's highest ever loss of life from a bushfire ( & as I recall at least one person convicted of arson).
At least now I've learnt (somewhat) to pay attention to my thoughts & ideas.

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I've abandoned the 'spirit world crime solving website' idea - however had never intended it to be regarded with total seriousness & certainly never with the apprehension that EVP could be considered a viable, reliable source of evidence... basically just intended as an experiment to begin.

Presently I just pass whatever I get onto police /others, (no matter how brief) & if in the case the info. proves correct, then can only aid in assuming added credibility to the phenomena.
And if the results aren't currently exactly brilliant .. then what's to say the passage of time won't yield improved results .. for refinement must surely also take place on the other side, one would expect.

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At the moment i am trying for something on Daniel OKeeffe.

http://www.dancomehome.com/

Yes, there is a reward but that is not my motivation

If anyone reading this can keep his name in mind and post if they get anything similar id appreciate that.thankyou.

Came across the info. "murdered" .. & something about "nasty people"....
the recording was made some time ago when I enquired with spirit re. this missing fellow, but may have missed the response at the time ?... (unless it was added on later - which seems can strangely occur ) .. now can't immediately locate.


~ If these spirits are in fact just taking (lucky) guesses, well it doesn't portray them as very positive - optimistic souls! .. most often the responses aren't good.

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I'd be very interested to hear what response you receive from the authorities you pass the clip on to; do they take you seriously?

How do you decide when you send a message? Does it have to be clear or when you are confident of the content?

The idea of using EVPs at crime scenes is very interesting but ruling out contamination by various sources would be a bit of headache to say the least. Have you any ideas?

Best wishes,

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Hi Rachel

I don't pass audio's of my EVPs onto authorities, I only send texts -& only when satisfied (as much as can be) I'm hearing correct
So far have remained anonymous,
-so can't say what their response / treatment of info has been. (probably if I incl. contact details, I doubt I'd even get a response)

The idea of using EVP at crime scenes entered my mind -consequent to having received many EVP's relating to matters in my immediate environment which were in fact quite spot on... hence extending to crime scenes ~ may yield similarly accurate 'eye-witness' results ~ from spirits attached to those locations.

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and what about the girl Isabele celis ?http://abcnews.go.com/US/isabel-celis-missing-girls-mom-defends-embattled-dad/story?id=16385286

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"Novy's Dead"
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2013/02/11/447007_gold-coast-news.html

Don't think I've ever had any cases where I've been told they are dead -but was wrong.

Who killed Novy? .. "her husband"

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/isabel-celis-missing-girls-mom-defends-embattled-dad/story?id=16385286

"She's dead"..

How I came upon the message . I was looking to erase an old recording (not an EVP recording) so I could have recording space to record response by spirit in relation to Isabel's disappearance... (whilst having her photo on screen) however at the start of the old recording I hear "she's dead"..
This scenario happens quite frequently - where I don't have to actually record at all - the (relevant) message just mysteriously appears at the start of old recordings.


On a separate recording .. "She is dead" .. "Bill" ... "Bill Hurt" (sounding like "Hurt" / or could mean Bill hurt her ?

My feeling is same as the investigators, that is she was taken by someone known or local to the area - who likely saw her / was in her company the previous day.

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Amen Rachel.
Law enforcement has a tough time dealing with PHYSICAL evidence...they can't/won't change direction or approach an individual as a suspect on a sparse psychic tip- impossible to present in court or make it "stick"
(Not saying I agree, but it's the way of the world)

On the subject of contaminated or misconstrued EVP: I've gathered clips which, at first pass, appeared to relate to a current crime investigation- but, in fact, were actually related to a long passed situation in a nearby area...
Then there are the communications that refer to a MOVIE or TV SHOW (only becomes glaringly apparent upon viewing!)

I'm of the opinion telling someone their Loved One is dead causes more harm than good- They go through the grieving process naturally anyway and there's always the risk of repeating "the Sylvia Browne syndrome"- it's horribly awkward when they find the person alive.

Kenda

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I'm curious as to why we would take EVP seriously in the context of crime. Unless it's recorded in a secure environment in front of witnesses and has very specific information, surely it couldn't count as evidence?

It's a sad fact but there are plenty of people out there who would make a recording if they got a couple of minutes of the limelight. How would the police know if it was a genuine recording?

Fraud aside, if you accept that EVPs are from the other side, how do you know the information you are receiving is from a trustworthy source and is correct?

EVP recordings are characterised as being only the odd word or very short sentence, is this enough to go on?

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At the moment i am trying for something on Daniel OKeeffe.

http://www.dancomehome.com/

yes there is a reward, but that is not my motivation.

If anyone reading this can keep his name in mind and post if they get anything similar id appreciate that.thankyou.


Again.. "he was murdered" (after his sister appeared on TV)

Through experience, have to credit where there's consistency in response... esp. when from more than one respondent.

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Missing person's sites - an apt avenue to publicise the tool of EVP to those likely to be interested.

ie.
http://www.facebook.com/fortheloveoflisa

Was told "Lisa was shot"

Amazing how these messages just appear on recorder without having to activate record function ?.... spirit's eager to assist, perhaps?

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Missing person's sites - an apt avenue to publicise the tool of EVP to those likely to be interested.

ie.
http://www.facebook.com/fortheloveoflisa

Was told "Lisa was shot"

Amazing how these messages just appear on recorder without having to activate record function ?.... spirit's eager to assist, perhaps?



I was flung from the Facebook group- 'Looking for Lisa Stone...Help us find her' -after I had posted the description "Grey beard" received from a woman in spirit -after asking who killed Lisa Stone?
It seems the admin. of the site are censoring any info that detracts from their own primary suspect- Lisa's former partner Sherry Henry..
Of course I disagree with their stance!


In relation to Sherry Henry being considered a suspect -which all evidence would point to,. also need to consider that circumstances can sometimes conspire to implicate the innocent.
(also speaking through personal experience)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pp1386EIps

(there's a photo of a man wearing a king's costume with a grey beard in this 48hrs prog.. which I mentioned looked too docile to be a killer / also noticed an admin's (of Facebook site I was banned from) husband sporting a grey beard)

But then again.. you can't really go by appearances -for instance, who could have imagined this docile looking fellow (who by all accounts was a kindly gentleman) to be an evil serial granny killer;
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2010/05/13/eed0d4505b6d4a58af662e536640cd7b_resized.jpg&imgrefurl=http://north-shore-times.whereilive.com.au/news/story/granny-killer-brought-fear-to-streets/&h=245&w=271&sz=9&tbnid=pNDxpi8aVw0sYM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=121&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dgranny%2Bkiller%2Bphoto%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=granny+killer+photo&usg=__r3NGSKuId7Qi364ed6vTc4U6Axc=&docid=77unKycdlGP67M&sa=X&ei=Lrl1UaKVK4mWiQeq-IGwDw&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAg&dur=145

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If Sherry Henry did kill Lisa Stone, well it would be the first case of a lesbian killing I have encountered.

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It's time that crime investigators who may receive helpful / positive leads & info. from psychics or by other paranormal means, to divulge publicly in such cases.. for we all know police dept's receive input from such sources.. Whether they elect to follow up on the info or not.. if it subsequently results to be positive, then it should be incumbent upon investigators to publicly reveal as such.

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Unfortunately it seems alongside the increasing average lifespan is the increased trend for senior males to be involved in serious crime..
Hence jail sentences ("to when the offender is considered no longer a threat") need to be adjusted accordingly.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/man-quizzed-over-disappearance-of-siriyakorn-bung-siriboon-dies-in-prison-jump/story-fnat7jnn-1226628987832

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I believe an innocent man has been convicted here;
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50140701n

I'd be more inclined to suspect the sister (just something about her demeanour & dialogue?) ..or could just be that she believes her brother is innocent but doesn't wasn't to let on.
More plausible however ~ being the hit-man / mistaken identity scenario
(I think it ridiculous that one reason this was ruled out by investigators was because a chest of drawers was opened in the bedroom & hit-men don't usually rifle through drawers!)

Mistaken identity is more common than one may think.

The case certainly warrants a retrial.

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The kidnapping of the Cleveland girls certainly makes one wonder how common these instances are around the world.. I think they would be broadly underestimated ( as commonly with crime generally)
http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/2013/05/how-did-kidnapped-women-go-undetected-in-ohio-home-for-10-years/

Maybe spirit can provide some idea on the numbers held hostage ?

-although this is surely an extraordinary, bizarre case

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The kidnapping of the Cleveland girls...

Also of interest- If any paranormal means where utilised in the case? -surely you'd reckon if availed of would've yielded some clues.. particularly through persistence -& particularly given 3 girls! held hostage in the same house - in the same community.

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Madeleine McCann kidnapping, latest messages..

After a few more "dead" & giving some (ethnic sounding) name starting with "You....." I then get "outcasts - the lot of them" ... "hippies" (however could mean gypsies - as have been suspected of involvement) .. a few "tragedy" .. and lastly- "Madeleine ..... Isn't" (presume meaning isn't dead ..following on from messages saying she's dead) ) & from past exp. I'd be apt to go with the latter responses... as it seems "those with knowledge" are subsequently consulted.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-search-paedophile-raymond-1453749

I feel Madeleine was taken by gypsies directly - & not by paedophile Raymond Hewlett to then sell to the gypsies.

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When will Madeleine McCann be found alive? .. an immediate response - almost didn't give me time to say "alive"...

"26" "next weekend"

The woman sounded sincere - although have learn't that sounding sincere doesn't invariably mean knowing.

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/woman-found-dead-in-logan-central/story-fnii5v70-1226648122605

Woman in spirit "Her husband done it.... Husband! .... axe attack"

(husbands identified as the offender is getting a bit monotonous)

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Can you believe Apple can't help with how to post audio's on this site -or otherwise can't be bothered?

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Woman in spirit "Her husband done it.... Husband! .... axe attack"



The woman being found part naked should rule out the husband (unless it was intended to deter suspicion upon him?)... although she reportedly had been struck with a blunt object.

Actually this woman sounded an old battle-axe, should have learnt by now to be dubious when it comes to input from 'lower level spirits'.

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Some of these (ever increasing) rewards to solve serious crimes are certainly an incentive .. How many psychics (alive or in spirit) does it need to take to concur on the identity of the offender to convince police investigators, I wonder?? (obviously a hurdle being if name elicited is a common one)..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/reward-to-catch-rodney-james-mitchells-killer/story-fni0ffnk-1226648697062

.. after 30 years, well probably police don't reckon there's much hope of identifying the offender - so no big deal in offering the huge reward.

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When will Madeleine McCann be found alive? .. an immediate response - almost didn't give me time to say "alive"...

"26" "next weekend"

The woman sounded sincere - although have learn't that sounding sincere doesn't invariably mean knowing.


Rather disappointing, had my hopes up that the woman had insight..

I'll keep asking - & expressing "Hope Madeleine McCann is found" (maybe if everyone did same ....?)

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Some people on this Fb site plainly drive me nuts (Recent Posts by ignorant Others)

https://www.facebook.com/IwakeupwithTODAY?hc_location=stream

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Murder victim alludes to boyfriend as her killer;

(3rd murder victim I've made contact with)

https://soundcloud.com/spiritspeak/it-was-a-very-bad-relationship-i-was-murdered-i-want-to-say-thank-you-to-my-family

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First time "Cowan" (Brett Peter Cowan) named as killer of Aust. teenager Daniel Morcombe. Previously been "Jackway" (Douglas).. convicted pedophile.

https://soundcloud.com/spiritspeak/cowan-killed-daniel-morcombe

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This pair could be mistaken for brother & sister, I'm sure a soul connection; (when fall out, can really fall out!)

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=oscar+pistorius+reeva+steenkamp+photo&id=C53F5676B32DA6C99612AB5003BA3419CD983277&FORM=IQFRBA#view=detail&id=6BB4D4DC7D754F9BCC998999CE029EA5ABC60482&selectedIndex=1

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Good to hear!.. Justice finally arrived in this case

https://soundcloud.com/spiritspeak/daniel-is-elated-at-guilty

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This endeavour promising. Just need prosecutors to catch on!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Spirit-solvit/405914962898374

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Paul wrote:
Daniels hoody Is the key............................

Curious what you meant by "hoody"?

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At the moment i am trying for something on Daniel OKeeffe.

http://www.dancomehome.com/

If anyone reading this can keep his name in mind and post if they get anything similar id appreciate that.thankyou.


Came across this answer- recorded some time ago ..

"Dead .. he'll be found dead"


Body found under family home. A bizarre one.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-21/human-remains-found-at-property-of-daniel-okeeffe-family/7264228

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