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Old-Frank Member
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It's still a work in progress, but I got rid of thre PDF version. This is done Word. Frank Attachment: The Ghost Box-draft1.doc (Downloaded 3914 times) |
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Old-Frank Member
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There is no Franks's Box!! as such. I mean it is not any form of exotic technology. A simpler, and perhaps better method it take a radio with a tuning knob, and tune across the band AM, or FM, and listen/record. Do this with the intention of getting EVP, it helps to announce you are doing an EVP session, and you should be able to get meaningful, personal messages. Some voices may even appear to follow the tuning across the band. The rate should be 3 to 5 seconds to cover the band. You don't need any special boxes, or technology, and you certainly don't need some guru to interpret what you get! I think it might be better because touch is involved. We've had people experimenting on the EVP-ITC group, and getting some stunning voices. There's no way they could be confused for broadcast fragments. I want to discourage the belief that spirit communication takes exotic crap. It's simple, and it doesn't even need random noise or audio as I had thought. Attached is a voice from one of the members using this radio method. Frank Attachment: lovethesemessages-wishwecouldalldoit-(M--3-29-07).mp3 (Downloaded 2708 times) |
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Old-Frank Member
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Third try to upload a sweep schematic. This is to tune a voltwage tunable radio, such as the modules found in some older car stereos. I removed the tuing capacitor forma pocket radio, and replaced it with varactors, and this kinda worked with that. Old Frank Attachment: SweepThis.doc (Downloaded 1966 times) Last edited on Mar 30th, 2007 12:53 PM by Old-Frank |
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Old-Frank Member
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A voice from the pocket radio using a POS digital recorder. Attachment: (DVR)-Number7-CanYouHearMe-ahhWhyYouTestThis--.mp3 (Downloaded 2380 times) |
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Old-Frank Member
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Another voice. Attachment: SeveralStations-You'lBeGettingCollegues.mp3 (Downloaded 2091 times) |
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Old-Frank Member
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And another, as examples of "linear" tuning mode. Attachment: --NoNoseForHumans--.mp3 (Downloaded 2182 times) |
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Old-Frank Member
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a last voice. These were from the pocket radio, and it was kinda crappy the way I had it set up. Old Frank Attachment: Runni'SignalsPlease--YouInTheEarth--HereWeHaveLotsOfPeople-.mp3 (Downloaded 2298 times) Last edited on Mar 30th, 2007 01:00 PM by Old-Frank |
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Old-Frank Member
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The new board, with the linear sweep daughter board added, but not wired in. Made 03/29/07 oldnforgotnfrank Attached Image (viewed 10627 times): |
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fratka Moderator
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Old and forgotten? Misty and I were just talking about you the other day. The work you are doing is very important. Keep it up old man! |
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Keith Clark Administrator
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Hi Frank, Well you certainly seem to be gifted in the area of electronics. Pretty neat stuff. I'll be following it. Keith |
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lkimberley Member
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Hi Old frank, I like your attitude. The files are awsome. Maybe I could give it a try even tho I am in Old Mexico, no english station here and I do not speak spanish!! If I get english...that would be something now wouldn't it? Keep up the great work. Laura |
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Old-Frank Member
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That's even better! It's like another method, "the foregn language method", where you tune in a shortwave broadcast in a foreign language and record with the intention of getting EVP, the result is messages in English. Charli Claypool of coffeepotghost.com uses web broadcasts for this peurpose. I just made a board to do this linear sweep mode electronically. I guess there is a "Frank's Box", but I wanted to be clear it's not some kind of exotic technology. Frank Attached Image (viewed 10085 times): |
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Old-Frank Member
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Updated!? Attachment: TheGhostBox-draft1a.doc (Downloaded 1962 times) |
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dlemaux1 Member
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Frank, I'm toying with the idea of building one of these boxes and wondering how does this triangle wave generator tie in with the white noise generator? Are these signals mixed before running into the tuner? Thanks, Dave |
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Old-Frank Member
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At the moment I'd have to say it's a waste of time! Time and again I have posted voices only to have no one able to hear, or understand them, so I can't see where this sytem really works. I already quit the EVP-ITC yahoo group cuz it's not possible to discuss this stuff, and too discourageing to post voices no one hears. Think I'm about done. But...the white noise, and linear sweep are different, and seperate systems. They don't tie together, unless you're using a single tuner with both systems, then you'd switch between the two for the tuning voltage. |
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fratka Moderator
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Frank I had responded to your post on the yahoo group. I could hear your recording perfectly. Texas Frank |
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Misty Member
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ditto Frank S. I hear alot of your files as you do or sometimes extra messages in them. Tho sometimes I have to save all your emails in my inbox til i get time to download and listen (dialup sux) I think what you have done is very important not only for my own work but for many others. YOU are often the helper on this side whether ya realize it or not =) <<<puts superglue in old-franks seat>>> Misty |
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Old-Frank Member
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Thanks! I waited, and waited on yahoo, and no response, I figured no one was hearing it, and my own mind created the voices. I've had this happen over and over on groups going back since 2000, when I first started this work. It makes it awkward, cuz I can't talk about what I do, and put up examples when no one wants to say anything, good or bad. I'm never sure if I have entities speaking, or if I'm dellusional. Then there's always someone, usually a new comer to EVP that's going ot tell you how it realy works, and they've never gotten a voice in thier lives! I realize not everyone can hear this stuff, and it takes some practice to get used to hearing these voices. Personally, I don't consider the box a wast of time, and I'm still working on a cabinet for #23, I cut the metal for the front panel last night, and I'm thinking about how to finish #22, the one with Linear, Random, and manual sweep modes. I just hate to recommend it to others, too much heart ache in this field. The voice contacts, absolutely amazing, and no one else can hear it!? Old-Frank |
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fratka Moderator
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Frank, I know exactly what you mean. This field is thankless a lot of the time but there are more people who learn from what you have posted than people who criticize or don't understand. Those are the people I keep going for...the ones who have sincere interest. I don't do the linear sweep because it confuses me during the playback (it messes with my hearing). I do direct voice on a static frequency and it seems to be working well for me. The voices are getting clearer and you can tell our spirit friends are modulating the signal and even changing the modulation to make it clearer. I'm not sure if Misty told you or not but they confused me with you the other day and called me princess. I was like, "thats Frank S's nickname"...LOL. Anyway, you are not ignored and your work has been very important. I troll a lot of the forums and webpages and your box has sparked more debate in the paranormal investigation community than anything else I have seen (and I have been in it for over a decade). At the very least you have made more people aware of ITC than the pioneers of the 70s, 80s and 90s. At the most you have created more believers and experimenters all from one radio program. Its the ones that you don't hear about that are experimenting in their garages and basements now. You have provided the world with a piece of real evidence that just about anyone can do. I'm not sure whether you are aware of that or not. People like you, me, and everyone else who practices ITC, accepts the afterlife and our friends in the beyond as truth are the ones with the burden of changing the thoughts of the world. We have a good start and a lot of support on both sides. You are appreciated Frank Best Regards, Frank R. |
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Old-Frank Member
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Thanks. I've been warned by other old time researchers to say away from groups, so I'll see how the forums go. Old Frank |
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Old-Frank Member
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I'll try this voice here. Kinda noisy, this is with the linear sweep, on AM, on 4/23/07. It was rainly that day, and I usually have that buzzing noise in between stations here, it comes and goes. Old Frank Attachment: Frank-YourGhostBoxesActuallyGetTheGhost-Talkin'-EQ.mp3 (Downloaded 1932 times) |
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Misty Member
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Hey Frank great capture. That ones very clear for me and sounds continuous even tho I hear slight tone changesl...it flows smoothly. The only difference I hear is at very end Frank The ghost boxes actually get the ghost talking to Frank I hear your name at the end too as well as the start. Misty |
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Old-Frank Member
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Thanks! That's what I was trying to get across to the other group, that with linear mode, the messages are longer, seem more coherent, and meaningful. I also forget sometimes that even wiht this stuff, it still might take some practice to hear. Frank |
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fratka Moderator
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Yeah, I can hear what Misty hears with the added Frank on the end. Great capture! I was warned of the same thing, pertaining to groups but I know there is a greater potential for contact in a group and the contact field is stronger. I also am aware that there is the potential for damaging relationships within the group too. Then again, isn't that what it is all about...building relationships and resonance between entities. I believe that pertains to both types incarnate and discarnate. I think the risk is justified. The pros definately outweigh the cons. From what I have seen I like your personality, innovation and experienced insight. I would hope that one day you will reconsider joining us, we are all a group of people who accept the existence of the afterlife and these phenomena. But that is just my opinion, take it for what its worth. |
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Vicki Talbott Moderator
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Hi Frank and all, About groups, I have been a member of a few and am still. I agree that resonance is important, support and good will towards all in the group as well, and when that is clearly not happening, or when the learning stops, it's time to step back. I still remain as a member when this happens, but I do not participate where there seems to be competition, ill will, lack of harmony, huge egos, lack of critical discernment, etc. Here, I feel we are all singing from the same page and it feels very supportive. Also, as Keith and others have said, there seems to be an upswing in the field of ITC, exciting things are happening, and I can sense that particularly in this group. Glad to be a member. Oh, and by the way, Old Frank, I admire your work in the field--keep it up! That last clip of yours is a good one! Vicki |
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Misty Member
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Yep I agree, sometimes thr groups arent what we want them to be but they do have moments of insight, points of contact, and a link to whats going on around us in the field. Besides if I never joined a group I never would have met you so if nothing else I am thankful for that. Misty |
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Old-Frank Member
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I forgot about the block diagram. Attached Image (viewed 10202 times): |
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Vicki Talbott Moderator
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Hi Misty and all, I agree with Misty that if it weren't for the groups I have joined, I would never have met the wonderful support people I now have. I still maintain contact with many very serious researchers whose groups have gone by the wayside or who have left groups as well as with many who remain members in the most active groups. It keeps me going. Thanks to all. Vicki |
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psi_research Member
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Since I have been using Frank's Box, I must state it is probably one of the most effective instruments I currently use for to research voice phenomena. Although Frank will state there are various methods a person can use to obtain their results, such as manual sweep vs. automatic variable tuning, I can report that using auto variable has been working well for me. I believe Frank's development ranks right up there with the other important ITC pioneers that have worked tirelessly to advance the field. We are getting some amazing responses from the Box, and although Frank mentions he didn't intend it to be a completely active two way device, I can't help but to ask the occasional question. This is especially when the communication recieved is specific to the stated intention or question. I also find it important to open a session with clearly stated intention, and will politely close each session. Like EVP work, you develop an ear for hearing the voices. Some intuition is involved in my case, and ignoring broadcast messages so ethereal voices can be heard gets easier with continued use. I listen to Frank's recordings, and can hear the messages he does. I also believe when researching the paranormal, it is possible that the researcher becomes a part of the tuning circuit, perhaps psychically. It is not a new concept that thought energy affects the physical world. The Princeton Univ. EGG project (Global Consciousness) graphically demonstrates that. Is it possible that random tuning or manual sweep is simply providing the noise needed for the mind connection to manifest into thoughts from beyond that we can hear? -Bill |
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