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Posted: Oct 13th, 2010 11:58 AM |
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richeyjo Member
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I hope you have a screwdriver because I would absolutely love to see what happens when other people use it. Turn it on, then put it close to your monitor and watch it go off. Then pull it away and see how it stops. Don't tell anyone what you are doing but touch them with it, but do not rub it against their skin or clothes. Then get them to talk about someone in spirit and watch what happens the next time you touch them. It is amazing. My cat will chase, jump, and meow at spirit energy. When he starts to do that, that is when I get out all my equipment.
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2010 03:05 PM |
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Slider2732 Member
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The screwdriver useage is ingenious...I like that a lot ! We have a K2 and, do give it some room within experiments, especially after fitting a switch for the on/off. It's a love or hate device really for most...I know I like the thoughts of the lights reacting and have had some interactions. Not used it enough recently though. What would perhaps be good for us and for you richeyjo, would be if you could run a webcam live feed. These events sound so intriguing and, it's to be hoped that others could witness events and report to you if you weren't around. My wife and I used to run cams, which have been offline for quite a while now, called Cougar Cams. So much interesting stuff happened and so many great people came forward with captured images and sounds etc. Just an idea and only needs a PC to be left running. We used Ustream.tv to host our stream. Might not be your cup of tea, but such clarity and strong events are being shown by the spirit presence. We have one cat that loves to walk on the latest and smallest model aircraft that I might have made ! frantic shouting and wavings just result in her slowly moving forward until *crunch* !!! I guess i'll just give up the shouting and wavings lol
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2010 05:16 PM |
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richeyjo Member
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Please tell me more about the live stream as I don't honestly know anything about it but I'm one person that will try anything when it comes to experimenting with spirit energy. The screwdriver experiments started by accident and I just wish someone else could try them because I'm not sure if it is the screwdriver or my family/house, which gets so much energy, and I'd like someone else to validate my theory. I'm not saying there is anything electrically wrong with my house because I've had as many as six different EMF detectors so I know for a fact that under normal circumstances this house is very clear of any leakage as I've tested it every way possible from top to bottom, each plug, light fixture, and electrical box, etc. There are two other people in the forum that have access to electrician's screwdrivers, so maybe they will try. I'll see if the hosting company you used can give me more info. If there is one thing I know for sure, if something is electrical, my family will use it. I just posted a new video today where I was re-arranging some icons and not in any of my sites (I have three), and all of a sudden the song from the first page of my site merged with the song from the first page of my daughter's site, which I built after her transition. Since I was not in any site at the time, no music should have been playing at all. I love energy, and apparently so does all my family.
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2010 07:49 PM |
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Vicki Talbott Moderator
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Hi, I can't make heads nor tails (nor hands--lol) of the picture you posted of your hand. I can agree that I have never had demonic influences around in my work, but I can't for the life of me figure out what that picture is all about. It doesn't look like anything much to me since it's so blurry.
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Posted: Oct 18th, 2010 08:54 PM |
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richeyjo Member
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Vicky, I was just pointing out that I've gotten two irritations on my hand and one on my foot as I was walking around trying to gauge the height and width of the EM field, and that many people can get a skin irritation that looks similar to a slight burn (reddening of skin and itching like crazy) and this has absolutely nothing to do with some kind of spirit attack, but a very common and natural occurrence if you are hypersensitive to high EMF readings. Sorry I confused you.
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Posted: Oct 19th, 2010 07:52 AM |
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Slider2732 Member
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Bit more streaming info - The streaming is, I believe, still the same as when we used to run our cams in Minnesota in 2007/8. You can get a good feel for how the whole thing works by going to ustream.tv and just channel hopping around like using a TV. One way of thinking of it is like YouTube...if you've ever uploaded a video to there, then it's like constantly uploading one, with the video able to be seen as you do so. The basis, is that you 'Sign Up' for a free account. Create the profile of your 'Show' and then connect with their server. It's all an easy few stage stepped through process. All you need, is a webcam. You get to see your video stream live and have the option to view as webwatchers will be doing. You can then set frame rate, quality, sound on/off/volume level and other details if wished. There's a processing delay of a couple of seconds in the live stream (maybe they have an automatic program to spot misuse), but is still considered as live as it can be. Streams can run for however long you wish..our cams were up 24/7, which is why we had a dedicated PC just for the streaming. To try it out, just create any profile you want when you've registered. If it looks to be what you want and works comfortably, then you can edit your profile to be a live feed others can watch. Some more info, though specific to our cams we had. You can actually set up a second channel or probably more. We used to also run Cougar Cams2, because our home system needed more cams (odd events in the garage meant a cam needed going in there). Our system was an ex CCTV 4 camera unit. The cameras plugged into the CCTV unit, then the output of the 4 images was sent to a TV capture card on the PC. Each camera would be shown for 10 seconds and they rotated like that for the live stream. Our only trouble was hard drives...being as the system was running all the time, we used to find that hard drives would go about every 4 months. Perhaps Keith had similar problems, plus being on all the time it runs electrical risks if you go on vacation or whatever. We had live games too on there. A 'Spin the Wheel' game where web users could stop a wheel from spinning and try to get the pointer to line up with a mark on the outside of it..that was incredibly popular, seeing thousands of spins and attempts. That was just a de-cased CD-rom drive mounted vertically with a CD on it and Sharpie'd arrows. Also a 'Guess the number' LED game, where someone with possible precognitive abilities might guess the number of random LED's that would be shown when they clicked to run the game (all games ran from the parallel port of the PC and I created webpages to allow the interactions). Our cams were: 1 - Two mirrors facing each other, one from a haunted house, cam was between them 2 - Television ITC feedback loop 3 - Interactive games 4 - Basement overview (all were in the basement as that's where historically the activity was) Anyway, so it can be as easy as setting up a single cam, or can branch out and involve experiments, games, multiple cams and more Last edited on Oct 19th, 2010 08:07 AM by Slider2732 |
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Posted: Oct 19th, 2010 05:38 PM |
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richeyjo Member
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That sure sounds confusing to me, but I'll check into it more. Can you just use it for a couple hours a day, like in the evening when people are home from work, or on the weekends? I sure could never afford replacing hard drives every few months. I know I've taken some classes via live stream but it was scheduled for an hour at a time and then the videos were put in an archive in case you weren't available at that particular time.
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Posted: May 26th, 2011 07:38 AM |
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catperks Member
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Hi richey, I had a listen to your video and yes of course spirit side do talk through your speakers. What exact date did you shoot the video?. Why I am asking will post later. Cat
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Posted: May 26th, 2011 10:30 AM |
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richeyjo Member
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I know it happened on July 4 because you can hear one of my neighbor's shooting a gun in celebration. I believe it was 2009. I'll check on YouTube and see if the year is there. If it was 2008 I will reply again and let you know. I started getting a lot of this type of phenomenon from my speaker so I added ferrite cores just to make sure nothing naturally man made like short wave radios, police scanners or anything else could get through to my speakers so I can rule things like that out. Although I was told by the computer store the ferrite cores would absolutely stop everything - they were wrong. One night I had two men talking, one had a foreign language and the other spoke English, and one time it sounded like a paranormal show from England because a man was talking about spirits and he had an English accent, that is why I thought maybe I was picking up a neighbor's TV or something and got the ferrite cores. Mostly I get musical tones, or songs coming out of it that have special emotional meanings to me. One time I got a male voice that said "It will be okay". It sounded so clear like there was a man in the room talking to me but it was very reassuring in sound and I know I got scared, not because of the voice, but in wondering what was going to happen that would make someone want to tell me that. Unbeknownst at that time, a few days later I found out what was going to happen and I was so upset and needed those words of comfort because the incident that upset me already happened but I just didn't know it at the time. Please let me know why you asked when this happened as now you have my interest peaked.
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Posted: May 26th, 2011 11:29 AM |
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richeyjo Member
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It was July 4, 2009 because that is the day it happened and the date shows up on YouTube as the day I uploaded it.
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Posted: May 27th, 2011 01:40 PM |
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sparks Member
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Richejo, are you still getting speaker voices? Do you have separate speakers, so that the audio input cable to the speaker can be unplugged from the PC? It would be interesting to know if the voices are coming from the PC or they are generated inside the speakers themselves. JEFF
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Posted: May 27th, 2011 04:52 PM |
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richeyjo Member
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Actually it happens both from internal speakers and external speakers. At the times of that particular voice video I did not have the external speakers yet, but my newest computer doesn't even have an internal speaker so now I use external ones. I know it is weird so I did do a lot of research on how wireless equipment and radio towers can affect TVs and computers, as well as other things, but have been able to rule everything out exept for the possibility of some neighbor having a two way radio, but once I had the ferrite filters put on all pieces of the speaker and tower (the older tower that did have an internal speaker), the computer people assured me that would take care of that problem as no outside frequency should happen with the filters. Guess they were wrong as I have now gone through 3 different computers putting out voices, sounds, musical notes, and turning themselves on as I sit on the other side of the room watching TV. All three computers do such odd things but then my ink cartridge on my printer moves by itself across the roller. I've ruled out any spike that may be caused because of updates or auto clean of files because I have them set for 5:00 and 6:00 A.M., and there is no schedule so-to-speak as to when things happen in the day, early or late evening very sporatically. Since I have a lot of EMF, K11, pod, compass, therometer, Yoki, and other equipment, I do know that they do go off which shows there is extra energy around my desk area at those times that is not there any other time. I have repeatedly gauged the EM field from top to bottom of this house, including the basement to make sure nothing is coming from the basement or fuse box and leaking upward. It is a real mystery to me, but actually something very fun to watch and listen to.
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Posted: Jul 11th, 2011 07:27 PM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hello, I have been getting messages via my computer but differently. It happened by accident as I was reviewing my EVPs, when I realized that the EVPs were endless because there was just so many of them. One day my friend Nancy called me as I was listening to my EVPs and I looked at the call display but chose not to answer. I go back to my computer and my next EVP stated ''c'était Nancy''(it was Nancy) and the reverse ''qui a sonné''(who rang). (I get most of my EVPs in French as I am French Canadian.) I was floored so I continued and realized that I was communicating with live spirits and not listening to my past EVPs anymore. I began asking questions and was getting answers by clicking on highlighting a part of the white noise. Some of the answers were much clearer than others. I am now unable to listen to my old EVPs as it gets taken over my live communication and they end up altered. My main concern is that I have no idea who I was communicating with. I asked a few times and got a few names of people whom I do not know but they seem to know everything about my life and exactly what I was doing at the time.
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Posted: Jul 11th, 2011 08:38 PM |
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richeyjo Member
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Your visitations are so neat and exciting. To me it wouldn't matter who I was communicating with, but more importantly that they wanted communication with me. Have you tried asking if they are relatives, or for a last name so you can do some research on them? It is just so fascinating how spirits can manipulate the energy around them in so many different ways. Like you I lost a lot of videos vs EVPs, but now I've learned to make a disk of everything as quickly as possible.
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Posted: Jul 12th, 2011 08:43 AM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hi At this point I have no idea who they are or were. The first time I asked for a name, one replied, (ca cest pas gentil)''this is not nice''. They told me they were sent by a saint but I could not make out the name. They kept talking about having a file with them and their office. I asked them if they were angels, they told me that they were in between. I asked if a particular person was there and they told me she was skipping this session as it was not private enough for her. Then I asked how many of you are here and they told me 36, I communicated for 4 hours like this the first time and kept asking how many and the number during the session was changing all the time, but then they told me to stop asking the number. They told me many times that they were sitting on the floor ( I have never heard of this) and that it was hot. I asked them if they wanted the AC turned on or to open the windows. They asked me to just open the windows. Then I said ''here I opened the windows for you'', then one asked if I broke the glass. Interestingly, they know a lot about what is going on in my body, my surrounding, my life even in my heart and my head. One time one told me to go empty my bladder as I was holding it not to lose the communication. One told me to get going for my practice as I was going to be late but the computer will stay there. They said'' l'amour ca s'enterre, il y a de l'ouvrage ici'' ( love can be burried, there is a lot of work to be done here), they asked me if I could forgive one person in particular. I told them yes. Then one replies that the sound of my words was not convincing. It seems like as time goes by during a session the quality and sincerity of the speakers decline and doing this has been giving me constant headaches. The EVPs that are clear and relevant I save them right away on audacity but sometimes they change before I am even able to do so. I am not saving each EVP as it would take too long. The weirdest thing that I have is an EVP saying the name of the daughter of an old boyfriend ( the one I am supposed to forgive). Turned on reverse it stated he is crazy about her (which he totally is at the expense of his other daughter). The odd thing is that he is alive but the voice sounded exactly like his. I could convince anyone who knows him that this was him recording himself. During my 4 hours, I started getting live messages in spanish, then I asked them to speak French, the Spanish stopped but one said, ''c'est pas Paris'' (this is not Paris). I could go on and on. This is all very new to me, but I am here to talk to people with similar experiences who understand the process. I was somehow confortable with static EVPs on tapes but live communication is a bit overwhelming for me. I feel that this must be quite important for them to come to communicate this way as I was never looking for this, they found me and started slowly and worked their way up to live communication.
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Posted: Jul 12th, 2011 10:26 AM |
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richeyjo Member
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Your experiences are amazing. Robin told me and I've read it many, many times that there are several levels that one can work themselves up to in the spiritual realm. That makes sense to me because of all the frequencies and vibration in the universe, and spirit is energy. Rob is my transitioned daughter. When she was here, she use to be able to see and speak to spirits, so my son and grandson would tell her a lot and then she would tell me what they said. Time, space, and numbers aren't important to them so I can see why they would rather spend their visit wanting to talk about other things. I've always believed that spirit shares our space so them sitting on the floor also makes sense to me. I know they can read thoughts because thoughts are actually an energy field too, because my son and grandson, who transitioned before my daughter, told my daughter although they can hear me talk to them in my head, it would be helpful if I spoke outloud because that would make it easier for them. There are groups out there that deal exclusively with two way verbal communication like in the Scole Experiments and Montague Keene. You might want to check these and others out, but please don't leave this forum because I would love to hear more of your sessions. Is there anyway you can use another recorder and record them? I'm glad you said that one spoke in Spanish because one of my speaker sessions had two men talking, one was definitely speaking a foreign language that I could not understand, but the second man said "five" a few times, unless in another language "five" means something else, but I took it as English as it didn't seem to have an accent to it. You are greatly Blessed having this type of communication. Please tell us more.
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Posted: Jul 13th, 2011 04:51 AM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hi again, My main concern right now is that I have no idea who I am communicating with for the most part. I received messages from my grand-mother as I recognized her voice, pronunciation and intonation, my father and my ex boyfriend's mothers whom I never met in real life and my mom's boyfriend who passed 3 years ago. But the majority of the messages come from people whom I cannot identify. Essentially they are all telling me the same thing about my present and future life. This is fine as it is consistent with all the dreams that I have had, the mediums readings and the paranormal activity which started 3 years ago (almost on a daily basis). But I was always a skeptic about the main message. They told me on live communication ''t'es Thomas'' (you are Thomas), which is a french expression to describe one who does not believe without proofs. This could explain why it has come to this. But on occasions they say stupid things such as ''you have a nice ***Foul_language_is_not_allowed_on_this_website!!!, we saw it.'' or they gossip about people I do not even know ''Madame Giguere est tombée dans un trou d'eau. (Misses Giguere fell in a puddle of water) Sometimes one will say, ''he is lying'', or ''stop lying to her.'' I often ask for the not so good ones to go and once I heard ''on s'en vas-tu'' (are we leaving?) Right now it is almost impossible for me to listen to an old EVP or old recording as after a few minutes it gets taken over. Something very odd happened to me at work earlier during the day that I noticed that I was communicating live. I have had paranormal activity at work (a pharmacy) on occasions. My coworker told me that she could hear the phone ringing but the phones were not ringing as they are louder and the lights come on on the phone when it rings. She was very confused by that. About half an hour later, I heard the same thing. Later that day is when I started communicating live, but this was never my intention. One of my EVP actually says ''a la pharmacie, ca a sonné'' (at the pharmacy it rang) I would like to know if the louder and clearer EVPs are from more reliable sources other than accounting for clarity or does it matter ? How does one protect from communicating with not so good souls ? I burn sage and ask for protection and will play love music before and after, but what do people do before recording ? I am glad I found this forum as I feel very isolated with this. thank you.
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Posted: Jul 13th, 2011 10:14 AM |
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richeyjo Member
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I could sit with you for hours and just listen to your experienes. I definitely relate to the phone as my doorbell (twice this morning at 10:30 and again at 12:30 rang twice each time and both times I went to the door and no one was there. This happens quite often, and also happens to one of my friends. We blammed it on something that just may occur as we become old until I did some research on it and found that it happens to people of all ages. I don't think stronger or clearer EVPS are necessarrily more reliable, but that some spirits just can manipulate the air better. If you blow up a balloon and then pull on the open side different ways, you can get various sound, and since spirit doesn't have voice boxes as we know them, they are manipulating the air and quite well at that. The boys told Rob that their lives are not as different as we would think and I've listened to the Montague recordings as well as others and they say the same thing. Perhaps the "puddle of water" and "lying" phrases weren't lies, you just happened to hear a conversation going on between two spiritual entities or they were just playing with you. As to the not so nice ones, I don't believe in evil spirits, or earthbound spirits as energy is free flowing and is not going to stay in one place forever or even a long time, so there isn't anything to be scared of. Jimmy and Tony did say they can take on physical forms at any age so if they can get enough energy to manifest, people would be able to recognize them, as is evidenced in a whole lot of pictures. Since I also believe there are many levels in the spiritual realm, again told by the boys, perhaps the not so nice spirit is still on the lowest plane and still has more lessons to learn. My daughter use to burn sage so I would say just keep doing what you are doing. Sage cleanses the air and prayer will always be heard. If fear is to be had, it should be fear of the living, not the spiritual ones. To me evil only resides in mankind as a tool of freewill, to allow us to make our choices as we walk through the journey of life. If the not so nice one comes back, just tell him to go away until he can speak nicely. I liked the "Doubting Thomas" thing because I think most people are skeptical at first until they no longer can be. One or two things we can often throw away as imagination or our eyes or ears playing tricks, but when things occur over and over again in different unexplained ways, there is no more room for doubt. Although I have gotten voices from my computer several times, nothing as consistent as what you are experiencing, although I wish I would. When it started with me I ended up putting ferrite filters on my speakers just so I would know it was not and could not come from any outside man made source. What a lucky and Blessed person you are.
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Posted: Jul 13th, 2011 02:02 PM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hi, right now I do not really feel blessed, more like a freak : ) I never never went looking for these things. It all started with noises in my home and I finally went to a medium who recorded for the client. One day I heard things like mmm, someone tapping on the table and voices on my tape saying '' ''she is kind of strange'' she comes here consistently'' At that point I called the medium and asked him what this could be, he told me they were evps to look it up online. Later my ex boyfriend's mother came on a tape asking to speak and asking for him; on that same day when I came home from the medium I had brought my own tape recorder and it was in a plastic bag ( as I wanted to make sure that the medium was not playing with me). When I played back the session many weeks later, I realized that the machine started itself when I enter my driveway and recorded me getting out of my car and walking to my door. I said hello to my mom's dog that I was sitting and a woman can be heard answering me ''allo'' with another woman saying someting else that I could not comprehend. I have been having all kinds of stuff pointing to him happening in my home since he broke up with me in 2008. On Dec 29 2010 by coincidence (or not) I was driving from one city to another with my mother and her dog, and we stopped halfway to have dinner at a restaurant. The city happened to be where this woman and her son ( my ex) was from and Dec 29 is his birthday. I was not even thinking about this. After supper we went back on the highway and my mom noticed that there was music in the car but the radio was off. The dog started acting up and jumped on me on the passenger seat sniffing just my left cheek as if it was something to eat or something strange. My mother was wondering if it was her deceased boyfriend visiting. then a voice in my head told me who do you think this is , you just left this city and it is Dec 29. The next day there was a lot of noise at my mom's place where I was so I decided to record and asked who was in the car, I got the replied quite clearly ''je t'ai répondu' ( I have answered already) It seems like me stopping in that city on Dec 29 gave her more energy to do more. I always record her if I turn the tape recorder on. She always talk about me, my life or her son. The weird thing is that my mother and her have the same first name ( not that common) and a soundalike last name. There is a lot more about her but it appears that she also brought me a ton of spirits gradually over the last few months and now they all want to talk live via computer. When I met the man his mother had just passed 3 weeks before and he was crying a lot. It made me so sad and I used to tell him that I wish I could bring back his mother for him. As the saying goes... be careful what you wish for.
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Posted: Jul 13th, 2011 03:01 PM |
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Spider Member
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Hello again! If you were to ask a lot of us on the forum, you will find that some felt the way you do, that they were not actively looking for this, but somehow it has been presented to them. We all have a story to tell as to how this happnend. I used the same word as you did, "Freak". I just did not understand it, and wanted to know, "why me?" In all my years of doing this, the vast majority of spirits I interact with were virtually unknown to me. It was thru careful interaction that I now know how to recognize certain spirits by their voices, and many have freely given me their names. I have had some here with me for years. They were existing in my home way before we moved into here. It is not unheard of that most people's homes have spirits already there, it is just that some of the spirits like to remain undetected, thus showing no activity that they are even there. My first EVP was gotten quite by accident. In my childhood home, we had a recorder which my brother used to record a Riki Lake show. It was upon replay that it was heard: "Why are you hunting me?" said by a gravelly voiced older man. At that point my brother wanted the recording out of the house, he was too frightened by it all. I don't know if this will make you feel any better, but eventually this all becomes second nature, and it will feel like it has always been this way. Nothing surprises me anymore, I may get startled when something major happens, but after a moment, I become more inquisitive than anything else. I want to know more. It sounds like you have had quite a time of it lately. I do hope you will be able to adjust to it. Lisa
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Posted: Jul 13th, 2011 03:47 PM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hi again, I was never really concerned until the live communication started happening and some idiots started to show up. I kind of know the voice of one now and all the idiots so far have been men. All the women seem nice, so far. I was at work today, it was very quiet and all of a sudden the customers who walked in commented on how nice it smelled when they walked in, (kind of like a spa one said). My coworker noticed that it was kind of like if someone had just sprayed the air all of a sudden. We are not into selling perfume or similar, the store is small and was very quiet. Interestingly, I did not smell anything and my nose is usually quite sensitive. They often come at work, so I am not surprised, maybe just a reminder that most of them are nice. They keep sending me messages about marriage. Two years ago, I was saying outloud to my mother that I would never remarry and my laptop which was on my laps shut itself off automatically. I started to laugh and thought, it looks like someone disagrees. The other day at work we were talking about marriage and the light started flickering. My evps are full of messages about marriage. My coworkers know that I have spirits following me as I had to tell them because of some things that were happening. A few minutes later my coworker who was playing some game on facebook ( yes we do get bored when we have no customers) yelled, hey your spirit just printed my game. As she was playing, the image on the screen from her game came out of the printer. She swore that she never pressed the printscreen button. When I asked her what exactly she was doing when it printed she told me that she was building a chapel. It is good to know that after many years you have not came across anything really bad, so I will keep that in mind. thank you kindly.
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2011 11:18 AM |
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richeyjo Member
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If there is one thing you are NOT is a freak! So many people experience spirit communication in all different kinds of ways. We are all spiritual beings but we just happen to be on the physical plane right now while others are in the spiritual realm. Mind/consciousness is energy so it can never be destroyed but can only transition. When I have things happen I'm always so happy and it makes me smile, sometimes laugh, and feel so loved and connected. Enjoy your sessions as there are millions of people who would love to have the chance to experience what you are.
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2011 11:40 AM |
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richeyjo Member
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Lisa, you are so right, it becomes second nature to us and becomes our reality. To us it is not weird, or unbelievable, or scary. I'm like you, when things happen I always want to know the "how" because the "why" is obvious. The "how" is what got me into experimenting with various pieces of equipment and research to detect how energy works. I get so many e-mails, stories, and photos from all around the globe because of my website, and although some people recognize what is happening is of a spiritual nature, most of them are scared and worried that they are going crazy or have brain tumors or something is wrong with them. There is so much fear out there and TV programs on the paranormal are only spreading the fear factor because that is what causes good ratings. To me they are doing a dis-service to those who really want to learn and know more. Spirit is around us and you don't have to turn out the lights to find them in the dark. Skin irritations are a natural occurrence from sensitivity to high EM fields and has nothing to do with a spirit attacking someone. Energy can never be earthbound in a particular house or building as it is free flowing. Once people understand how energy works, you also understand that it is not something to be scared of.
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Posted: Jul 16th, 2011 12:16 PM |
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Hello, My evps became live about 6 days ago (to my knowledge). Unlike you, I do not really care about how as I accept that I will never really know, it is the why that I am curious about. They have told me twice that they come with the wind; they often ask me to open the windows and when I do they ask me if I broke the glass. I asked them why they ask if I broke the glass and they answered that they saw me turning something (the handle). I have been on the computer with them for many hours this week as this is all new. I am unable to listen to my live evps for more than 5 minutes as they get taken over by live communication. After 5 minutes yesterday, my evp was ''on veut commencer'' (we want to begin). The only evp that does not get taken over is one from my grand-mother. They tell me what I am wearing, that I am hungry and should go and eat, what I did during the day ,where I am going on that day etc... they seem to know everything, absolutely everything and every life detail. I felt asleep in front of my computer for 30 minutes; then the next evp was ''t'étais endormie'' (you were sleeping). They always refer back to the life path that I should take despite my skepticism. Can anyone relate to any of this? My outlook on life has changed significantly in the course of just a few days. I also feel surrounded and isolated at the same time.
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Posted: Jul 18th, 2011 10:51 AM |
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Once again, as I tried to reply to you, my computer malfunctioned! I apologize of you received a partial reply. So I am going to try again, and hope it goes thru!! What you describe is what a lot of us here in the forum have or had felt when this type of revelation came to us/them. I have a different type of situation going on with me. When I record for EVP's, upon reviewing them, I am able to hear the entire conversation going on, not just the occasional word or phrase. When I would present my results people were very skeptical of them, saying it was impossible to be able to hear what I was reporting. It wasn't until the responses I would give hit a nerve with someone, such as getting a name or a place, or an observation correct, things that could be backed up with hard records, or verified personally by someone involved. I felt like a total freak, since there seemed to be no one out there hearing things the way I did. I researched all over the internet, talking to all kinds of people involved with the paranormal, trying to find someone with similar experiences. I finally found a lady named Debby Constantino, she has a website, http://www.spirits-speak.com , whom I was able to talk to at great length. It was a relief to find someone else that could hear the way I do. I didn't feel so isolated anymore, and she encouraged me not to pay any attention to those who challenged me. I know what I am hearing, period!! I know it feels weird to know that they can describe what you are wearing, what you are eating, even what you may be thinking, all that personal stuff! I wish there was something I could say to make you feel more at ease with what is happening to you. If you show a lot of fear and negativity, they can utilize that as a form of energy in which to manifest and speak. It took me a very long time to convince myself that I was in ZERO danger. I had to learn to be brave and fearless, even if I didn't feel that way inside! Oh, things still startle me, but I refuse to give into fear. No time for it, and it is a waste of energy. Eventually I got the message across. All the little tricks and games stopped, pretty much. As to choosing your life path, all I can suggest is for you to follow your 'gut instinct', that inner voice we all have. Most times we already know what we need to do, but we put it off or try to ignore it, for what ever reason. When the time is right, I think you will know it. I don't know if anything I have said has helped you out or not. Just follow your heart. I hope things will be better shortly. Lisa Last edited on Jul 18th, 2011 10:55 AM by Spider |
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Posted: Jul 18th, 2011 11:28 AM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hello, Thank you very much for your reply. It is helping me to put things in perspective. Can you tell me if the good spirits can lie ? They are telling me that they are coming to guide me as a group ( I am starting to recognize some of the voices) and what they are saying makes perfect sense with what has been going on in my life for the past 3 years. Regarding the negative spirits, the few of them seem to be men and they talk about sexual stuff (that is all). I tell them to get out everytime and they are slowly going away. I tell them that I will be putting some Celine Dion music which I do and it seems to get the bad ones out. I have a little fear ( have to admit) but because most of the messages are about positive outcome, I think most of the spirits are quite good and my fear is slowly fading. What make some people more susceptible to getting this type of communication ? thank you again
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2011 03:53 AM |
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You ask if 'good' spirits lie. I suppose they are capable of telling a white lie every now and then, depending on the circumstances., just as we do when we are alive. Is there a reason you ask this? Because the spirit world has a lot of the unknown in it, is it is possible, for a not so nice spirit to pretend to have your best interest at heart? When the opposite may be true? I had a fellow that started out to be very nice, that is until I found out from the others that he was being a bully, and intimidating a lot of the others. He had to go! And go he did. I guess you have to use good judgement when it comes to believing those who claim to be your spirit guides. I myself do not have a spirit guide, but I hear of many people who say they do. As long as someone isn't telling you to do bad things, it might be worth listening to what they have to say. Remember though, those spirits around you pretty much know everything about you, just by being able to observe you without you even knowing it. We truly have no secrets!! Instead of calling them negative spirits, call them plain just negative people! Oh yes the men can be raunchy, and part of it is because they can see you, and you may not even be aware of them, and they take advantage of this aspect!! A free peep-show! But I have come across some skanky women, ones who made comments about my husband and son's 'anatomy'!! If they were creeps in life, they are creeps in death. I like the Celine Dion 'treatment'................if it works in getting rid of them, so be it! I am glad they are going away, it shows you will not put up with their nonsense! As to why they come to some and not others, I'd like you to ask them this question, and see what answer you get from them. You may be surprised. It may be as simple as they know you can hear them and others cannot. It may be that simple. Some crave that 'live' interaction, that link to the living. You had asked in another post how big they were........what made you ask this?? I just wondered! Hope you can feel better about these things! Be patient!
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2011 05:03 AM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hello I asked if they lie because a few people have warned me about lying spirits. In the last few years I have had many dreams that turned out to be precognitive. The dreams were about my future, but I did not want to believe the ones about a particular topic. The dreams have now stopped and the spirits have told me the same thing on the traditional recordings and now the live recordings. It is all aligned with all the medium readings that I have had over the last 2 years and also with what my grand-mother told me in the readings, the dreams and in recordings.I think I believe them now. They must be telling the truth because something that was just told to me a few days ago just happened yesterday. I have asked them why I was getting this kind of communication. One told me that my wings were blue, another one said that I was receptive. They told me that they were here to bring me my blue sky. I was asking about the size because one said he was under my blanket as I was on my laptop laying on my bed. I told him to get out from there and I shook the blanket. again, thanks for sharing
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2011 06:07 AM |
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It seems you are making good decisions as you are going along. It is that you are now very aware of them being around you! I do suppose that there will always be one in the group that likes to stretch the truth, but as long as you stay aware, it won't cause any damage. And to have experienced precognitive dreams and it comes true, that is something I am sure you are now hyper aware of and will be looking for it. The blue skies amd wings will be referenced because they know you feel comfortable with the concept. And as for size, I am sure they can squeeze into very tiny spaces, just to be close to you. I found in one recording I had done in my bathroom, 14 people gave thier names! It is just a tiny bathroom, so I had to imgaine all these folks crowded in there together. Another session I had done in my bedroom one night, I was told there were 10 people 'sleeping'(as they reported it!) in my room each night when I go to sleep. Again, I pictured people all over my bedroom, vying for a place to rest at while I slept at night! I guess just be patient as this all unfolds. It is indeed an iteresting event to be a part of!
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Posted: Jul 19th, 2011 07:05 AM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hello, I did a brief session this morning. Again I always start be reviewing my previous recording and after 5 minutes maximum it gets taken over. This time they clearly said ''we have arrived''. To summarize things, the spirit world has told me many times that I will marry a specific person, they have repeated it numerous times. A man and a woman on my records were trying to say the opposite this morning. The said that he bought a ring for another person (according to the facts that I know here on earth, I find that very unlikely). I recognized one voice as one of the idiot. The other spirits we keeping the original story. I went to eat, and when I came back on the computer, one of the idiot told me ''you just ate, we saw you eating''. Then they continued with their story (the one against the other version) so I told them that I just want the truth, I told them I would stop the recording and to get out. I resumed after a few minutes and all they would talk about was blueberries (it was very clear). I do not have any blueberries here. It is kind of funny at first, but listening to 2 guys going on about wanting blueberries is not very interesting. I just feel that for some spirits they are so low that this was the best that they could do as opposed to telling lies, talking about sex or insulting me...I am not sure. I just wish that I could only get the best spirits around...
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Posted: Jul 20th, 2011 11:07 AM |
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Spider Member
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Hello again~~! I wouldn't put too much faith in what certain spirits are telling you, they are known to play games with a person, even as going far enough to pretend they are someone else! If you are starting to recognize voices, that is very good! Also, remember there are some that will try and intimidate the others, for what ever reason. Some think they are the un-appointed 'boss', and try to order others around. For them to talk about something as mundane as blue berries, I am sure it was to just throw you off the original conversation! For someone to predict your future, how can any of us be 100% sure of anything? Are they saying this because they have heard you talk about this in the past? As for wishing only to get the best spirits around, if only it was that easy!! Just as in life, we don't have a choice as to who we run into on a daily basis. The kind looking man sitting next to us on the bus may be a horrible child abuser, the young lady walking past us who looks like she is a prostitute, may actually be a nurse! So it is hard to tell what type of person we will have a chance to interact with. I guess the only way to keep some control of who speaks with you is to see how they initially treat you, and then you interact with them accordingly. I know when I come across someone who is verbally abusive is that I will tell them I refuse to talk to them. They are welcome to speak with me as long as they can be respectful, and I in turn will treat them as such. I have to put them on my mental 'ignore' list, just to keep my sanity at times!! For the most part though, I come across many more nice people than not, and that is good! I agree that men have more of a tendency to say something nasty in a sexual manner, but I have found women to be equally just generally mean and bad tempered too at times. It just depends on their personalities!! Hopefully things will become easier as time goes on for you!
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Posted: Jul 20th, 2011 01:30 PM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hello again, Someone on a post suggested a voice recognition software, have you ever used one? I am thinking of trying this to recognize the voices. I actually got a name today of one who is not a regular (I think) and it is my cousin's grand-father and they were very close from what I remember (he passed away many years ago and I did not know him) I am hesitating to take this to her, but I think I will have to. Regarding the blueberries, I think I figured it out as they are constantly referring to blue things ( my blue house, my blue blanket, my blue bathing suit, my blue sky etc...) In fact, they nicknamed the person I am supposed to be with ''Blue'' because of his eyes. kind of strange. I mentionned that I was hungry yesterday (kind of talking to myself) and in my next recording they told me that they could go to the kitchen to prepare something for me. One recording said ''martian'' I replied ''oh no I do not want any martians here'', the next recording said ''oh me neither'' They are very strange and intriguing...
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Posted: Jul 20th, 2011 02:30 PM |
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Spider Member
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Hi~~! No, I have never used any type of voice recognition software. I suppose it would be very helpful for some people. If you ever do use it, please let me know what the outcomes are! What ever name you were given, perhaps you should try and engage this person again! Before you record, ask those around you to contact ____, and please, if he is present, can he come forward and talk to you? I would attempt this first before going to any family member. You never can tell, he may be just waiting for you to talk to again!! As for the color blue, this makes me wonder if 'they' see the world as being in different colors. The reason I say this, I have a few recordings that the spirit's refer to things as being the color green?!!?At the times of these recordings, there wasn't anything prominent that was green in the surroundings. So maybe they do see in a different color spectrum than we do! Saying 'martian' is kind of strange!! I wonder exactly in what context do they mean? Now that would be worth asking about again, don't you think?? Try asking and see what kind of response you get!!
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Posted: Jul 20th, 2011 03:17 PM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hi the ''martian'' thing kind of freaked me out because of one evp that I have recorded on July 1st and posted on this forum which is quite clear with an odd vibration ( I am a startavix... stop fro ) all the idiots have been gone for a couple of days. I did some recording yesterday with an English speaking person present and the comments were still all in French and more general. I assume that they are communicating with me personally and this will not be about other people for the most part. I did ask for a specific person once, two men spirits were telling me that she was gone, then I was asking why, they kept telling me that she was gone but not really answering, finally on my 3rd attempt, the woman came out bursting (the most clear evp I ever received; I actually thought that there was a person in my room) ''c'est assez'' ( this is enough), on the reverse it said ''tu le savais''(you knew). I did not believe that she was gone as I just knew she was still there. Then the men spirits and her exchanged a few insults. Some of them do lie, I just have to learn who is who and how to get them to tell the truth.
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Posted: Jul 20th, 2011 05:02 PM |
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I am glad to hear your 'idiots' are gone!! It makes for confusing conversation when someone is interfering with what you are doing! You talked about them talking to each other, I have listened in on a few heated exchanges between spirits, and it seems no different after someone dies as opposed to when they were alive when it comes to a good arguement! When I go to record, I give them a heads up about what I am about to do, and what I want to talk about. Otherwise I have found that they will continue to talk amongst themselves until they are good and ready! And I only record in 3-5 minute sessions, if it is longer, it makes it so much harder to decipher what is being said. Getting them to 'tell the truth' may be harder than you think. They will say things that won't make sense until later after you have had a chance to think about them, or they will send you on a wild goose chase, and go totally off subject. It takes time to discern these recordings, and even though what they may say is in real time. let us know how it all goes!!
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Posted: Jul 22nd, 2011 02:30 PM |
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drrh Member
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Hi guys, I've just been reading what has been going on lately. I too can hear them real time. Alot!!! LOL Lisa (Spider) and I know each other pretty well. We both have a lot of the same experiences and that is how we met talking about it. One thing I do when they are talking and won't stop is to just walk away and ignore them. Turn off the fan, water, etc. The things I can hear them talking on. Like right now I have a de-humidifier going and I can hear them talking but the TV is on so it's just like background nose that I can't make out unless I would listen on purpose. And I have been sleeping with ear plugs for quite a while now because I can't sleep with them talking to me. This is mostly through fan noise. I could turn off the fan but it gets too hot even with the air on so hence the ear plugs. Funny thing with me is I seem to hear only from people that I know that have passed on. One of my best friends, Gary, passed in 2001 and I hear him the most. He seems to be the dominant one. I'll here someone say to him, Give me the telephone, and he says no. I ask what kind of telephone is he talking on and he says it's similar but not exactly a telephone. I have another friend Tom that had a heart attack and died in 1995 that I usually only hear in the car when the AC or heat is on. It's all very strange I know. And crazy, and funny Gary tells me sometimes You're not crazy! You can hear us, I don't know how but you can. He's right, I don't know how I can hear him either, it just happened one day. And he gets nasty too sometimes and says he hates me and stuff like that. I hope someday we really get an answer to why this happens to some of us but not all. I do know that once they know you can hear, they don't seem to want to shut up! LOL Hang in there! I hope sometime it will be funny to you as it is for me. I only recorded once lately after another friend Ronnie had passed. And I asked Lisa for help. But I don't seem to need a recorder anymore, I can hear them without. I would pick more stuff on the recorder though I know. Sometimes it gets too overwhelming so I backed off recording for awhile. Well enough of that for now, take care, Debbie
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Posted: Jul 25th, 2011 04:00 PM |
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Greenman Member
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Hello everybody, I'm new to this forum. I just finished reading through this thread. All I can say is Amazing. It was both moving, and educational. Thanks to all. Greg
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Posted: Jul 25th, 2011 04:14 PM |
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drrh Member
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Hi Greg, Welcome and nice to meet you! It's a wild ride somedays! I hope you enjoy it and learn from it. Debbie
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Posted: Jul 25th, 2011 05:17 PM |
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Greenman Member
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Thanks Debbie, nice to meet you.
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Posted: Jul 29th, 2011 12:54 PM |
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inquisitive15 Member
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Hello, I can now really relate to your experiences. I realize now that I am in zero danger as you said. The idiots are gone, the same spirits keep coming everytime I turn on audacity with white noise on the screen.They tell me it is easy for them to come now. They also come on a tape recorder quite loudly but the tapes seem to get a wider range of people including some who are one timers. The amazing part is that every single inch of white noise of all my records either on audacity or on tape have endless conversations between the group. I will never ever get to figure all of them out. Sometimes I hear 3 different voices saying 3 different things usually on the same topic and they share some syllables. It becomes very difficult to decide what is actually being said at times. How can the white noise conversations be clarified ?
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