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 Posted: Feb 28th, 2011 04:22 AM
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Keith Clark wrote: Hello,

Though your expressed interest is in working with "true" mediums and helping them impress the world with their abilities, what I feel is your true intent is not the same as your expression.


OOO That may be because my abilities in foreign laguages are weak if it comes to different topics. I am sorry if there was a misunderstanding. :blushing:


The first indication of this is that you make mention twice of "worship", yet everyone with any knowledge on the subject of people who are truly gifted and work with spirit is that "worship" is the utmost last thing on their minds or agenda. A truly gifted and/or respected medium works for the betterment of mankind, and places no emphasis on seeking or garnering worship.


OOO I totally agree. That is why I am wondering and what I wanted to say. Imagine - beeing gifted like that  - wouldnt be your highest aim helping the world. I guess it would.

But my experiences with mediums I had were different. I am sorry to say. And sure I was disappointed by that. The ones I met and talked with were very focused on business. And as you say - I cannot think of soemone beeing blessed with that ability - having an insight in higher grounds and nevertheless beeing focused on banal things as fame and money.

Well. I do not know what was wrong by saying this. For sure I did not want to blame anyone in special. It was much more a question.

The second indication is that your first and second sentences insult one of the presently known materialization mediums, something we don't do here, something quite contrary to the policy and etiquette of the forum.

OOO Did I insult anyone. Well - that was not my aim again. I think there is a difference between beeing critical and wondering and blaming someone. I thank you for telling me my way of saying it was leading on a wrong way. I will have to take care on that. For sure I am not in the position or mood to insult anyone. That is completely the difference of what I want. So - anyone out there feling insulted - take my excuse for that.

The third indication is that, while you say you represent highly talented and trustworthy partners from most famous universities - there are 2 flaws here. The first is again, famous or not, gifted mediums are not necessarily drawn to work with people of fame. The second is this: it would be common for an educated person or person of expressed intent such as yours to use spell check, or at least ensure that they took the time to convey their meaning properly and clearly. This message was composed in a hurry, and does not convey the essence of higher learning that I would expect.

OOO Well, I really get my portion - ummm. :blink: May be the right way to treat me but I feel insulted as well a little  I have to say now. :( You sure agree the world would only believe results if they would be presented by well known and talented scientists. My english again? Can a talented and world known professor for a university not be famous - does that automatically have a bad touch?

Drawn to work with famous people? Well, if mediums appear on tv shows worldwide and set up cruise travels they for sure have no prolem with fame as they for themselves enter the stage. And well - for sure those people deserve belief and for sure the world would believe more if they would have partners from the so called rational side of the world. Well known scientists - usually known for not beeing into this topic. If they stand up and say "we have prove" - WOW.

I never said I am an important person. Never ever. I was just lucky and very happy sharing contact with some very talented and world known (for their talent and wisdom - better that way?) people. I bet if they would tell the world they have prove, they would get the attention that topic deserves. Actually only people listen who already believe in all of that. You hopefully agree it would be great if we could reach the rest of the world as well with the facts.

The only thing is. Those scientists are not willing to search the world for support. Dont ask me why. I talked to them may times and they said all their efforts on cooperation went to zero. They are frustrated. So call it a fools idea, I thought I may just cry for help. Anyone out there? Maybe a very spontaneous idea - and mabye senseless but well. I just wanted to help with my small means. Usually I get quite friendly answers and I was shocked on the re-posting. What did I do? But you may be right it was the wrong way how I started this time.

My spell check. Umm. Written in a rush. Well. I guess you agree speaking in foreign languages is sometimes not the easiest thing. You are right - I made mistakes - maybe a lot. But do not forget please this is a difficult topic and I am not "moving in my mother language". For sure you could say now: "then better leave it" - and seeing what I have caused here in your eyes I maybe should. But my aim was not a bad one and  I guess - fi you would have been willing a bit more giving me a chance you could have finally be able reading between my lines I am not a guy interested in a) wanting to cause trouble or b) insulting anyone or c) making the impression I am a person of importance (nono - sure I am not)

Okay. I end up. Saying sorry again for misled words. Wanted the best caused the worst maybe. It sure is a topic that drives me emotionally and maybe my words therefore sounded somehow too passionate. You cannot see inside me and knwo my history, but maybe by all justified criticism  - a bit more tolerance by my words as foreign person with not the best english would have been nice.

But yes. I have to learn a lot. If you "moved" in another language sometimes maybe you know there are easier things. And sometimes your words run the wrong way and arrive in a total wrong way.

Sir,

If you are truly attempting to bring people forward to work with, who are truly gifted and desire to provide evidence of life after death using materialization mediumship, there are much better ways to do it. It would be best to first be honest, second - to not insult existing mediums, and third to provide discussion on your experiences with physical mediumship so we can have a basis to understand your request. If you truly seek proof, it will be given. Insults are not likely to produce that desired effect.


Seems my whole posting looked like an insult. It was much more intened as a shout for help, maybe also a shout because I finally wonder so much this topic does not earn more attention. Also a shout of frustration beside the experiences I had and have been told by scientists willing to work with mediums and beeing rejected. (Again, I am jut a small flame) Well thats a long story and you see what I caused with my small posting. I fear - telling more on my latest experiences (which were a lot) would maybe even cause more trouble. Maybe I will have to work more on my english AND  - don't be angry please - stay on a forum where "critical words on actual living mediums" will not beeing judged as insultation but questions. I did not doubt the talent or gift of those people, I was just wondering and asking and feeling deeply sorry IT SEEMS as if they would not be willing to cooperate morewith scientists to proce what people like you and I already believe. That was my point (I actually hope I did not make another insultation).

Well. Well. Learned a lot. You may be right with your words and I will stop. Besides I never earned such a reaction on a posting - and it was not my plan. But if I made intolerable mistakes - as said  - very sorry for that.

For now, this thread will stay open, but if negative replies are the outcome, it will not remain so. If someone that you seek who possesses the gift of mediumship desires to contact you, we would certainly desire you to have that opportunity. If that happens, then this thread will have served a useful purpose for you in your quest.

Well if a bad start leads to a better follow-up - great. I doubt for sure. You said my words insulted people and my writing is full of mistakes. So I earned criticism on any base (from content to correct writing). I do not know if other people value that the same way and it was not planned that way. But you taught me a lot. So thanks for that.

If you have attended a David Thompson seance (or other physical mediumship seance), please feel free to comment on it here. Your post indicates that you have personal experience with physical mediumship seances. If not, may I recommend that you do so. I have attended 4 myself, but have not yet written on it.

I had many attendings like that. Yes. My english may be week if it comes to special topics - and I hope to improve  - but my experiences are widespread on that field. My highest respect goes to those people beeing mediums and I know they face a rough altutued from most people of the world. And what a great thing if they stand there like a rock anywhere for what they know and are. Without any doubt David Thompson and many others deserve highest respect. But nevertheless any topic to be discussed may allow also questions and critics - also from people who generally believe. I do believe and know what I saw but I still have questions and doubts on many things and hope they can be solved some day.

I wish you the best in your quest, and hope you find what you seek.

Thank you. Wishing you the best as well. May I ask why you did not write about your experiences on that topic. You said you had some? For sure this would enrich the topic.  Have a great day. I will keep calm now here as my last intention would be to affect anyone or seed mistrust or negatuve vibes into your forum. Sorry for that. Warmest regards.

Thanks,

Keith



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