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I just realized there was a forum here for phone stuff. I just want to point out that I have found several messages piggybacked on normal phone messages. I dont know why. Some of them were repeated on several "different " voice mails from different callers Maybe its easier for our friends than direst dial. Keep your ears awake and while you may not have gotten one this time I wouldnt be too quick to completely discount it. I sent my last one to Keith to listen to but I havent heard back. I should have posted it here. I think I will if I can manage the attachment. Laura has heard it and feels its pretty negative...but with all our hearing ranges being a bit different and so many things going on at once in this one, I hate to toss it untill Ive exhausted the attempts to understand. Im off to find it.....