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Thanks Joe, I've been "messing" about electronics since the early 70's, gotta say the technology has changed a whole bunch. Taking a look at bread board and trying to remember resistor color codes.... well, it's all coming back, glad I didn't eat that many rooms back then. I've read and heard about all the "ring ring" ghost on the line, may I take your orders, devices. It's taken off like wild fire. Seems that every turn someone thinks of a easy way? I'm starting to look for some micro farad types, and to locate my box of parts n pieces.