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 Posted: Oct 20th, 2008 10:45 AM
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A challenging view..does that make it something fresh and perhaps needed for us to challenge too ?
My view is that the site presents valid arguments against many of those involved...however, it also seems to imply those undertaking spirit contact via a similar Spiricom method are all barking mad. Which is something I don't agree with. Current electronics, methods, learned and theoretical physics all are now far in advance of those early experimenters knowledge. The original was only that, many believe the spark of interest, the direction they find themselves travelling in, was the real work of the Spiricom pioneers.


The implications of the opening index are that, In Edisons case, he thought the whole thing hocum regarding spirit communications and not deserving of any worry about him designing any form of apparatus. There is then a link to an unfortunately difficult to read newspaper interview. I presume the idea is to look at the poor PDF copy and merely accept those words of your introduction.

On the website, the words relating to Edison are:

 "In this article Edison is merely responding in hypothetical terms to the reporter’s line of inquiry; there was no indication or reason to conclude that he was personally engaged in such an effort"

However, right there within the document is the following:
"The apparatus, which he is reported to be building is still in the experimental stage. Obviously, Mr. Edison is too cautious and too well founded in the uncertainties of any new experimental work to say anything definite at the present time. However, he wishes to say the following which is very significant in the light of his past record in so many fields of endeavour: "I have been thinking for some time of a machine or apparatus which could be operated by personalities which have passed on, to another existence or sphere. Now follow me carefully: I don't claim that our personalities pass on to another existence or sphere, I don't claim anything because I don't know anything about the subject. For that matter, no human being knows. But I do claim that it is possible to construct an apparatus which will be so delicate that if there are personalities in another existence or sphere who wish to get in touch with us in this existence or sphere this apparatus will at least give them a better opportunity to express themselves than the tilting tables and raps and ouija boards and mediums and the other crude methods now purported to be the only means of communication""

and further:
"I believe that if we are to make any real progress in psychic investigation, we must do it with scientific apparatus and in a scientific manner, just as we do in medicine, electricity, chemistry and other fields. Now what I propose to do is to furnish investigators with an apparatus which will give a scientific aspect to their work" and from there he explains his apparatus.

Nowhere within the article does Edison himself believe the concept of him working on a device to be ridiculous. What he does do, is cover himself from typical cynicism, that is a daily barrier to all in the field and to protect his good name should the device not work.


 
  The read intention of the site is to blow the field out of the water, but, it actually furthers any instrument transcommunication cause. Through implications which are incorrect and a general air of dismissiveness, the site simply does not work to distance interested persons. Those tones, while important to the idea of the website do not become a constructive argument case. People will wish to be informed about the real work being undertaken today in the field and may become as intrigued as some of us on this messageboard.


By the way, your link contains an extra space and a forward slash that isn't seen on the link in the message post. 
  
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Last edited on Oct 20th, 2008 11:33 AM by Slider2732