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 Posted: Jan 8th, 2013 03:06 PM
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Gizmo



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fratka wrote: I agree with all you said, though I gave up long ago in trying to debunk or disprove others "evidence." I would like paranormal enthusiasts to learn the proper way of collecting and supporting their evidence. I would like to see more people wade deeper into the pool of information and apply what we do know about our environment. Sometimes science can explain what we have just witnessed, which doesn't make it any less spectacular or less supernatural in origin.

Too many "investigators" accept their "evidence" as supported only because they have see hundreds of pictures from others without any data to back it up. Maybe its wishful thinking, being naive, ignorance, or just plain lying but accepting evidence just because you took a picture in a supposed haunted location and a spherical light anomaly shows up is wrong.

Maybe I am being naive for thinking people will do the work involved with real research, because it is work. I like to think of it as hopeful! :wink: I just posted on Sumption's Facebook page yesterday: "I have watched the "paranormal community" for the last 15 years make no progress in research or mentality. A community of perpetual beginners because the "old guys" get fed up and go into solitary research." I think this is what happens with most people on this forum. Though we all collaborate with posts and ideas, we are still researching from a solitary perspective. For the most part we are not part of teams or groups, mainly because we have found in the past a lack of dedication or seriousness.

Keep in mind, these comments are pointed at the paranormal investigation community and not those researching ITC. For the most part, those who I have come into contact with in ITC are internally driven and self-motivated. Even though I have not been heavily active in the community for a while, I have still carried on my own research and I suspect those I have collaborated with in the past have done the same.

I know, I'm a little off topic! Its been a while since I've posted and I had a few things to get off my chest. :blink::biggrin:

I'll stop now! LOL

Frank
Well, it's really nice to read your thoughts, Frank.  Nice to meet you, too.

I'm an odd bird.  I am not an investigator.  I am not a researcher.  I am simply someone who is intrigued by the paranormal.  I really enjoy looking for patterns, and enjoy trying to make sense of the puzzle.

I have no scientific qualifications.

What I think we might agree upon is that a large portion of folks have as their hobby, "Paranormal Research."  They base their activities on what they have seen on television shows, or seen at the movies.  They don't have any real idea how to go about gathering "evidence," so they seem to do what they have seen television shows present as ways to go about things. 

It can be a fun hobby.  It's fun to go and be scared and try to capture evidence (that would not be considered evidence to anyone but themselves and their friends).  In all those hours and hours of effort, not much ever comes out of it -if they are lucky.   I think that they are taking stupid risks if they get embroiled in something unexpected by being vulnerable and in the wrong place. ( I am not referring to the people who do it right, and are meticulous in their methods.  I'm not referring, either, to the people who are driven to go looking for answers because they deal with the paranormal in their own lives. )

Actually, my interest is with the people who actually deal with it personally on a day to day basis.  I'm most interested in helping them come to terms with what is going on by trying to understand what is is that is messing with them.  I am also interested in figuring out different ways to STOP activity.  I've long ago stopped needing to "prove" it exists.  My focus is on identifying it, then on pushing it back.

But I do confess to having a short fuse for all the orb photos.  It's an annoying reminder of how amateur "ghost hunters" can discredit the whole field.

Last edited on Jan 8th, 2013 03:08 PM by Gizmo